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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane# l' n, }5 j' M! P* C4 K/ k# S
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?") I8 S, e4 ]" s! @2 X8 h0 v5 Z
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
( Z% E" J3 u3 O8 W9 Q* t, y; t葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:& u6 Y7 v1 E* o' p& u" A" Z: K
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
' |) P' M4 g, R% s' G她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:, j2 x& n8 Z8 m( E
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
6 @9 E* d% V* K7 ]3 p5 _6 x- }  xShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
3 Y% L' v1 x, z& G0 Ebut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,$ R; M9 {6 \  p8 `. k& Q
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
+ V! j+ L- c. o7 r3 OAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out./ ^  G5 A7 h' O# m5 R8 r  i
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
+ ?* p8 Q* e/ Y6 E8 e& s4 Pif we demand He leave us alone?"/ y! [  ~0 K4 g) K( k3 C
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
$ R7 E, r* z$ R" ~$ r3 X只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校," B+ h! O6 v* }6 b% [8 [' k
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。' ^7 T/ ~1 F/ I& o# E1 w
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。- E- v& j  o: g/ X# ~! g
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
( _* f$ ]1 N, G0 p5 x又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』$ I6 e; |* C) V' S4 x3 w/ P8 C1 Q; i
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.6 B3 J7 w: H% Z) S) K9 k  u
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered," o0 s  j! ?# ?* T! j* y
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
; q* D- R: @* s2 p: \# [/ t" Qschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
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the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,- R' o" ]$ k, G8 S0 b# Q1 ?! f2 ^5 n- ^
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
( r. D. K( M& v' f2 v; L" n* W看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
+ Z+ B2 k# r% D  w: |% b3 f2 C我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士, O2 G3 u8 E  f* \; ^+ ^9 T' j  ~
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,, T$ p8 F3 {) N0 j6 n$ a( k; v% }
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、/ |& Y9 s( O. U3 k
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children: X- C  O: i! W6 F; i5 k3 ]
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped4 V) U: V0 D: N) R$ Y
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed9 }% c  z- D+ T- r! b5 J
suicide)9 X9 t, W; J, v6 S
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
% j- ^' B5 A9 J2 H$ S然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
$ B" D0 {! {6 i3 x: \8 `5 [我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,4 b- B! {) q, j: \  k/ A
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊4 m; v$ y5 m. R( E& C. K
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our/ ?& L4 j* z' y/ o
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
; K) G$ J- C( A8 Ain this school better touch a student when they misbehave$ _; ~. ?( e' g
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
% M7 W* W$ x+ T: J% Hand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
' u7 U' x: ]9 ^& ]+ e# ubetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,: G* x  J; ?* c3 Z7 \6 v. P
etc.). And we said OK.3 u! f) O6 w5 y, u: q
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
. _3 j' R! F8 d! {) T4 [7 q老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
9 y+ M. T2 t) ~" c( ^! B5 M- E教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
7 J; j1 R( m7 p7 _  }( {: p更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),3 X$ G3 C+ J7 @  n& V) c
而大家同意了。+ O- z7 R+ j% b# P" M( b8 I4 S) r
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,6 F% S$ J3 }" V/ X
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
. E3 |" o) D* Y! _& nThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys' h3 R! z  r( t8 R: J. Q* F4 W0 @% F
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms- U( c6 W& X- r4 b  n
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,2 B8 l7 S+ c0 z) R7 w
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
0 l4 N$ R1 t' Dsaid OK.8 ?7 {3 G# z& E- ]
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,; _$ l8 T" ^/ O
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
5 d2 T1 d# z& g6 I然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,% b# ~7 X1 o/ s1 g. \7 Z
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
, V2 ?# b5 I$ C/ a好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道! z) W. \  C# U' x
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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0 i, }, p; x0 J# E: w. {, K$ k9 n) B- I" WThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter+ y  d( \7 a# n, d7 k; L7 ]/ G- Y
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,+ |5 p7 Q- P- f; i1 @, Y$ F3 A" P+ {
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,) g. E8 H" Z$ {/ O- s7 Y3 N7 d
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
" K# M2 y5 [4 `& q# K, i' X6 K1 I然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
+ q. F; R* b) l; [* T* n只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,  R2 j6 m/ z4 ~" S' T
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
9 w. ?2 Q$ G4 j只要我有工作而且經濟看好。* n4 t% S/ C7 e& f) S- }
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women- u$ ~1 d4 Q1 U9 D
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty& S( k0 @) }5 R, x' o5 _! A, {6 P4 e
of the female body. And we said OK.
3 m3 F& n( Z' s- m; F/ w然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,0 k! x4 D* B+ ]0 v% R8 z6 c
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and) s* G. A# k7 L. l
published pictures of nude children and then further again
" F& E- j+ X* U# t) c1 k7 m8 ~by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
+ u- s, o; U, o! Athey're entitled to free speech.
& a% S9 D0 ^+ p1 C/ n! _- Y6 p/ ~7 t  w然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照," t7 @2 J! B' l
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
' ]( q: E# ?4 I( C9 h) Y* n他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
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that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
( I/ m7 M, A& rAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,- Z3 j: }/ G! _2 j- A
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
5 y- q0 ^: C. a. i2 F然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
& U- J* c: s3 O& i- [0 o/ X不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
3 |+ e: m. X  _- ~' ]( i# k0 v, b# l謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:! l  V. ^8 T8 _6 g) y% e
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
, N4 s. |8 B3 g$ }  L4 m5 i2 dwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them& D' b* c- a" D/ Y8 W+ E- U8 I0 i
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,2 j  z: a$ {" v/ c* W
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
: L, j& t. x$ o* \/ E. rI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."7 l) T6 e$ I# _9 U
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
& H9 q: y8 G; L5 u4 E, {為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?  N+ d2 o' i* {% e
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?& b% T2 q* |- M: R- J* S6 q
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。. G  Z- y- A, l' Q7 ?7 p
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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9 B# b4 F5 l4 D+ M& j5 O5 I7 eFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
& h$ h. d$ ^- `- d+ jwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
; J$ t- m( z( M0 f+ v$ {3 F! Fsay, but question what the Bible says.- l) V" |5 [& D" J- J
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
2 D8 O6 O# C: }) |1 i實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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) ^! ?% b+ p( D) }' BFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like4 I, ^; C4 C) s& }/ z
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,( e# X% w6 \$ n8 T4 B
people think twice about sharing.
. ], `, g9 T- i+ `& u( y實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;' C  X# w6 I1 t. l- ~
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,1 E2 E2 D$ u# l3 g8 j$ A% U
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。& Q# W8 d, |4 ?3 n1 ^6 T- @

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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
- D6 {. m6 D! {; {' pthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
1 q8 t% f: c) E( Ein the school and workplace.) c% T6 j& w) Y* I# M2 {* J/ K/ Y
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章! }. O  h+ D7 L# f5 w8 G
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
6 T) p. F9 }  H9 G) e: y而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。3 h; d! z! r/ c" J" Z
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1 W/ ~8 L6 Y* M, D9 y8 U4 o! C1 wAre you laughing?3 I1 {0 Q8 I3 |& r
你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it9 A8 e4 t8 U' c1 C' L. d2 n5 f
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,7 Q% f4 z$ T, C/ m3 V+ R1 |
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
( i3 s' U) x3 W  Y( ?" N0 O% t/ V  tFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
! M, I/ p. Q( Y  I. G- I: Rthan what God thinks of us.
% Y( U6 O- F% O好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
( \7 k* `( }/ f- |5 k# f1 W3 Y& o因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
+ @8 s7 U# U+ h/ {或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
% ]& \* t7 d  z, u" f可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,, I3 `, ]5 R2 ^0 N3 G
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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+ D: n8 B% l& `/ Z1 u; \, _& |Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...9 [! [* @& x0 R" h
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't4 P$ @1 q) s" e% q8 s; I. q% W
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!4 \8 N( L- V8 m/ l; \2 A
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
# I0 o" E& P  E: q* ^7 \5 L若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
* p4 n) {( ]  N" z7 {* G- |但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,. s$ t, o! i1 e' |, p0 t2 ?8 ]7 C
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.* `; Z' Q8 j, a, z9 C0 G3 c
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
; v) @& c2 T: H: p; |! g' h+ z  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
* n+ m$ D9 U- x. \8 p" b有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。+ h5 [9 B$ V% y8 X/ x- P6 X. s( H9 @
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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) l4 |. `7 i4 A9 O  B所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。: ?9 ]; j0 K7 h9 f8 A

9 [' S' `6 M- r3 ^# ?社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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