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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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0 G. G2 g: C, L2 T/ M% P5 vBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane+ C- k/ ~7 a2 w6 p" K- _. W* q
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"$ o1 a3 u# ^. t& V8 d/ H2 W
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
; {5 g/ [9 d# J' f葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:7 b, S! q# v- `8 U4 C( p: q: f6 ^; M
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
# i0 Q  }, P8 h* u  |; C+ F1 a' y她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:2 T7 @  |' L. C
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.' V, h7 D/ p7 v) b" v
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
" B9 u' g$ L& X$ T3 V- dbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
8 J7 Z: J, ?; a0 s1 |' {) Nto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.+ ^2 a( R: J5 @" `( u" i. Z& ]4 ]
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.9 N) M. o, E( V6 s4 |' c9 i& s
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
! P3 X1 P& r% M" g* mif we demand He leave us alone?"
3 r/ s7 q- E( D+ U4 m1 n『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
* b$ V$ u6 h5 w7 v' |8 {只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,7 I1 t/ r( k- R3 ?5 x7 ^
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。7 O8 _* M9 H9 `. _0 c
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。/ z9 P" g" n+ N& h6 u
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
6 F6 m* p! _7 f& g- {又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』2 h0 c/ R6 v9 d

4 i1 H, [1 C8 S9 C! j$ RIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
# z, }# e. O+ [% e$ P+ eI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,6 S3 E  J% X5 @2 h& S: s$ a
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our* j6 ~0 `, t5 q& u2 U! ?
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
; C0 X; T- N3 g0 X: |; Bschool...
) V; E$ C/ v" w5 Y  n* _$ Sthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,2 E4 W$ c' `. T% z8 z, ]' I
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
0 ]- F9 z' G2 s9 f0 O" Z看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,8 D5 {. C0 e0 I# ]: N- S: p$ w7 V
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
0 k# a6 A2 ~) \1 J# x(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
7 j: z* v/ b( A8 ]) G0 m最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、. m& `1 \5 u$ d' u5 h" o; k" Z
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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' M+ k8 x6 C1 b5 P* ZThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
  G2 y0 m0 c/ R2 }1 v0 wwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped' |. l1 \  ~9 {
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed( y9 _0 d# p+ J% b) z/ f( O* n* C* @
suicide)
3 z8 W# C  _, e, M* H% J, KWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
: q6 i0 n6 Y8 g, Z* a0 {然後Benjamin Spock博士說,, U4 C7 `0 X1 z+ b& v) H
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,8 k3 M1 U: q; f6 o( {' [
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
. w/ O" \3 M% d, D9 ~( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。" V8 ]/ ~, g; N+ T- s+ n/ I
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our8 m# J, H: E/ C& r+ |# w" q
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member0 {, G0 w, f! @- e7 ~( e7 W" Q
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave& k9 U0 W0 ~' m' }/ O
because we don 't want any bad publicity,) {; a# g$ z- M1 p% Y) D# ~
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference7 j) Y2 y# V" M0 A, Z
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking," T6 M- q. J5 L
etc.). And we said OK.0 C. f( C# _) b, a: _( e
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
9 g1 V3 X( l/ [4 m% C老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,+ L' S3 f8 F/ k
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
  Y! a1 ~$ |" @/ C3 j更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
! a" g# \/ H: o5 v! d* Y. a而大家同意了。3 T$ M$ B- O% U6 Q3 x3 e6 Z4 W7 j: B
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
  I& u' p# P: uand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.! d7 F& X  A% B4 U2 a
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys. F& Q- O4 `7 U" L/ a" w6 u
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms9 A+ s% I: m7 A2 b
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
" I7 M3 ~9 w7 O. G+ band we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
; q) J1 v9 o, ysaid OK.
3 ?7 l9 P* X$ O0 |5 r& x0 ]3 o然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,: D: `2 n: u. R3 Y
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
0 f( {5 @" p* ]8 q* T然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
# k# `& H% g( Q& h他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
0 I3 S* W: f& ]' M. x6 n- T好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
& A7 _: \# ^% |6 |" @他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter# Q0 s5 Q. S# K
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,( a2 E* H; z( T. t6 N
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,& Z# h5 [- ^/ D- f3 h2 U
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.' `# z, z2 M/ J' M" Q) S( k7 l. _
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
$ r* Q- H. ^) ?: \3 f+ M5 _只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
0 X/ y$ ]! X, `% }% ]+ T6 Q& J) @& J任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
( e" N+ s4 r) [8 r2 ~只要我有工作而且經濟看好。& x* H0 w8 v3 d  ?  D
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/ }* U5 c  C& I% _Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
0 W1 O7 p. Y# S" E# A6 ^6 ~and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty" h/ F( g8 v9 b4 S, p3 o  k, ?
of the female body. And we said OK.
0 B7 j! f4 |9 d9 U: k3 d; j9 _. E然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,8 G' M2 o3 T0 Q( i8 S
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
6 n- H; r" n; [# X) q% f! `4 g9 Cpublished pictures of nude children and then further again1 q1 Z& ~* _9 m1 R
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
$ v$ L! ]: ?" v# l$ hthey're entitled to free speech.( D! F& f: x7 D$ {% Z+ i
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,% ~, o, G  s+ m4 x8 g
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,3 L: D9 V/ A' N  {6 S/ T
他們這樣做是言論自由。$ U4 B7 L& P3 c& q2 [% A7 B  t

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, j9 Y+ C+ Y# ^; F% l: yThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
" [4 Y/ I) J6 g$ w- U1 I$ z, Y" ^# Pthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
' t. t* @8 |7 j8 pthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
5 G9 `* x0 h: ^4 \# iAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
0 ~5 X7 f7 H6 Y% g# Unobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.+ E- }% T" i* s( q: r% ^
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、/ e. R' E& W. C0 U( h% }. Z# l5 a. C
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
8 _! E6 y; A, v  \& W' H: D/ B謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
9 C; l# _, t; m- t! D0 b那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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; b3 q/ Q( Y( \Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
% X( R& H" ~! a# o1 T# ]5 ~4 o" _5 Lwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them' o, h0 ?  z8 J) A" p
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
# r0 _- y3 G6 e  e5 pif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
# @# h9 q7 [* ~I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
! \$ r: |7 T. c3 Z/ \如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
+ U) f- a$ K$ w. V" \4 ^4 J, v- @為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
6 Y0 J3 x" x9 a: {" i1 i+ S, `為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
9 }" O% u  S0 U- h$ v5 F假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。0 {  O: E- L  w6 P; H- b
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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( o# q, k& p2 U3 kFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder' p+ B. x: p3 ]; h5 `9 g* o
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers  q* S' j' f' h1 _2 G. j: A
say, but question what the Bible says.  v/ H2 y. a5 [7 @7 I0 p5 h2 y
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。6 ~& X8 Y2 d- A7 R, j5 |1 }
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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1 W- i( m& c  T" kFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like% J" S0 z4 h- E; T8 q0 o1 b9 E
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,0 n1 `7 [% S$ j' C# Z; b, U
people think twice about sharing.
3 C! U3 ~$ Z& @; \+ O  |  N9 e實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
$ F5 }; F% w# p% n) D  c( _8 s* Q$ @0 _但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
) T  k  m3 I. [, ~- E人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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; |% h3 ]4 X4 O& e6 X6 aFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely6 l6 S, T; a7 I3 w# E
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed9 _$ H# R* i' m( S* r9 j
in the school and workplace.; j  y; r4 Q/ g7 H* x
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
7 Z7 _* W9 Q+ t# v1 @透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
: o% U. I2 A! [; U2 S* C8 U8 `而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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4 p" `+ b4 G6 K$ WAre you laughing?; D$ b9 ^3 L3 N. k) {
你笑了嗎?3 p+ `6 F# D. v$ m5 l

! {$ ~7 A1 V: v5 C  @2 V: m" y; fFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it! m* H4 f: H6 b) j9 K; ?6 V
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,+ X% c1 ~1 r2 j
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.; o$ \. T" q2 {. g
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us7 _5 m! d; T6 E+ B7 ?
than what God thinks of us.  s( b$ a$ [0 _' \" e8 h
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
- ]" R# e2 p* {0 t: T5 N因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,7 w: g$ ], ]- F' G: |( C+ j& Y
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。/ G$ `  I6 @( M+ [: p
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,' I1 b5 I7 G5 w
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。" p* k6 [4 b# ]  t* f8 H

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: A# t/ k2 W- H1 B; ~Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
+ f7 v1 y+ U4 S; M1 uno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't3 T# s" n9 ~; ^/ C) @# F
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
0 W! k. S% B$ D, i把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話; u: a8 s. ]4 N
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
4 p! N! Z# n; W7 U0 E* \7 W但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
' s6 L% p! m6 e; m  U+ b你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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; @, a5 Y3 D- ]# k上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。! a* {# V$ x4 e2 t4 V
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶% o- V, ?) z* D% ^
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。* g* }) e, v+ |- m  R' }
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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! J- j: o, O2 J. ^8 ~社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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