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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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: q. P# N  X7 r. x1 KTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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" M" v- e+ P. _. MThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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" m+ Z+ e7 v4 I7 a- W# b"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. # k8 I# Z3 j, i. `5 l* Y  a  V

: q" @7 q( y3 O8 r2 }- a% vNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000., f" v4 r" M4 P6 ^/ \/ G

0 F& {6 I, J- `2 Z  Y"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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3 |: z( K! b% T3 l; CTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ f( S1 [1 H5 Q6 S8 E$ n5 s

! d& C" v0 W5 J3 c, b+ g% H, `! MMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. / x' R# ~2 q- t' l. z
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,, V0 F' S, I6 {2 ]' B2 U

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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。8 R1 U2 p5 p! z9 H! d
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。& p. Z4 V4 [6 c1 U9 l

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 0 D$ Q9 N$ U) G  P$ G
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

/ t. h; p! S6 f: J+ `9 Z很多人都回学校深造去了) U: {- B4 f2 E# {" H1 |+ k
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
' ?3 v: q5 n: G7 A) q. D* LWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its0 c, F! v* @* s2 X* Z
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton9 ^: F1 Y- P1 \, t( y' E+ a" ~
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to1 R. |1 P& L' {6 y: u3 t. D
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household' [& D% F" \! f, D
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided& M. e7 Q' T: S& m0 ]+ d9 Q
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,/ ]0 d/ c7 y/ ^8 t8 M% T0 J
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
8 s. q  c2 K8 K! v5 Imay even cease completely during 2009. The previous8 s' N: f, G$ w" A* n6 j
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
- {! Z" a# @7 q3 I6 A, Q1 dprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
% ~7 ?8 H# n2 [to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
% w' C4 v5 U9 W( J* vprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
  d# j5 T8 W4 Z0 e1 D. Q* Kyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
7 L, V( o3 r. s$ }homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
2 Q+ E% w7 G* P( s+ p30,000 new households will form in the province during
/ O+ G/ j/ l: w3 \& E. m! D2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year., |4 D: C/ L  k6 H$ F
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s! P3 ]! D; }  D  V# p3 `# ^6 q1 d: ^$ T
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
, A: a! ]" ]3 Z" a* mduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta1 |  f$ E) T# l7 S( |* q
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new# x, u3 D  F/ Q+ n' Z. U- J
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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( b  t$ p8 [( s, ?0 s3 F4 lsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
2 _! l8 W0 r% T* O8 O0 @. xclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
: @4 u3 m/ r5 Y# uexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of! I( x; o4 ]9 T0 y' E" z9 a
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a8 ~! @9 `0 S' z( ^- h4 j: \
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
3 T; A2 J% H0 ?buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
8 i# Y( [. O  Utwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
) ]' z0 q* N6 w0 T5 H# `unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7478 `0 s: Z1 g* l, |# }
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest4 L3 [; J! R) j1 T! ]6 A
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
! \: T: ^% d$ presale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s4 I& [/ Y) c  F2 W" ^
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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; V) e& T* ~2 ^3 [# y8 QThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
0 Y" }5 F. _* }9 \+ zboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
( a$ \- v) v+ H) a6 T' W2 z$ IAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
1 n5 ~- P# J7 k2 u! v. ]housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced; m  h' R. C$ T1 V
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale- N! ?9 B6 k' r6 a
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
- N8 t' g2 S: Y9 nthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners; C4 _& G9 c( R
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.3 _, H. `: q) t
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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0 b$ Z0 ?9 K- i- p+ kexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
  @/ y$ q5 \0 bhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’! s/ k" L0 {# V9 r/ e
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,2 @" e$ L, p2 M* b$ J( I0 |
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%6 v& Z" P8 ~' k) x9 j; u7 h
leg down over 2009.% V" p7 {& H( Z  c3 W
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
/ u- R3 u: e4 `7 `: e1 s8 w0 sAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ( [7 i( b9 W) j1 ~5 }0 c% c
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子+ B5 P  G7 \% j, ]# ]7 p6 J

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  V3 p. d0 X1 A' U2 x& _[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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