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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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& K! s- |, b$ b" ~7 Y9 {3 I$ LTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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3 v5 \: W9 H8 `' f0 Q1 ?7 b. |The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. , U4 w  Z+ I# q% P3 \

* S8 B! H, @1 d/ Q* h6 R"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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0 p% Z9 P' }' Q0 LTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ( q3 y- h8 q; D  H- I
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. , p" X& B+ ?2 M0 ?3 R. x

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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! y$ R: _8 F6 Q& VTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,. L2 w  V( G) T" [* |" i9 f  ^6 Q

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。( d, q# ]; {' s
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。" x& O  Z( B. u, |
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 8 r; j% v- S& y& ~# t2 R
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
! u- g2 _. t9 z1 c6 }- y& W+ eWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its! Y  M( n( }' F
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton: y8 H9 Y  m( h0 V
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to9 G( B7 z4 |$ \' x- M
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
4 P" L! Q% |% e7 K2 p& R9 Zformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
7 i! X4 O1 S7 j. A5 o/ e. @from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,: c1 d" k7 v' H' t
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and% e9 R! A$ m: X# u
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
$ U. d9 d9 h6 U% mpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
- M9 R/ A: g* x+ j0 O! Uprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
; Y! [( s- f* J9 |to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year! U6 B$ C3 O* g2 H- z# b) m6 B
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
/ J5 v- H& l7 F) jyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,+ v: x$ T5 L' q) c7 h
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around+ a% @, }9 I5 O  K# X% n
30,000 new households will form in the province during
1 I+ k& N3 W# b( S% X( g2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.1 Z* D3 S# W$ w  i
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
, I5 k; ]! @/ g  Y: j* ?; Shomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
/ E7 q4 T! S) p9 nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta" T) x4 f; z9 @3 s4 J
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
& P% ]! k, Y: t1 \( |0 shouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals7 P# m' j/ g; ~& s, W
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging8 `! N$ T; s# {! B& a% F. @' F
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
: i9 E, S$ B+ g" n5 E5 yclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
; }9 {: H) B! v$ k/ zexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of/ j6 C; F& n  }7 R2 |0 s8 _% J, F: K& ^
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a8 u" e* v4 X# ]! S0 f0 E
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive/ [# N2 A9 H- S7 s/ N4 [  g* M
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in7 G$ {, W4 c8 V5 [/ I# m, a
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in# I3 w; G; J7 F9 ^
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
4 z7 ^' Y  i, Q2 f' Y! }2 vunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest2 z) M, V1 \# h% l+ d
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the, S" m5 R2 M0 |1 ~5 T0 ~
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s" l  Z  Q& x. G4 a2 S& W) m' E* c
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories2 G( B" m5 o) B, ]" v( R
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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0 J: b# e) i. T7 c; vThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
, Q8 [* m: h' x" Rboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.3 C% {: W2 F& Z$ \/ ?5 `: U
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
/ J1 r! }2 U: K" v6 _housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced+ a0 y- i+ U& I& ]  j
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
$ j  W, {& ^0 O! F6 l/ }! j) w6 vprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
$ T- f5 x5 ^' S. d+ w0 R8 t; Xthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
1 E: w4 f3 L8 A1 n& P/ Lon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.* z) D7 _7 M4 }% o3 ~( |
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average2 m# m3 {4 k' `9 ^6 p3 e
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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& Y' ~# M# u3 C( Y# Thomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’( a6 {/ J+ I/ A# C& u
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
% X) }5 s) Q# V1 TAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 {! V% W$ ]+ E' ^
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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