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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.6 Z0 T4 W4 j) n
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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# v7 m( C1 M# J) r2 G2 ?" m" AThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 6 F# X6 P, l2 u" l; u  I* n8 ?
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. & k$ @7 b$ F1 v4 k
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.8 o2 y- r9 E$ V4 Y( `- `  x4 X* r9 q

( U5 N5 K7 {! R0 tTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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1 y0 |( ^' U" n$ x"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 6 V$ ]9 e: u+ }! d
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ( f# _' _( s# u' _. N
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,; B  H* Y0 @, `7 S: F3 |

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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
5 w! O, f  `, e9 I 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
/ P- \. j' {* e跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta; N" m" O0 k$ H& Z( D; W3 o, n
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household( s, S2 n* C% |) `$ Q' N
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
1 c$ f" U: W$ `5 L! f, cfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
+ Y0 e; ?+ }! Othe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and8 g6 w* |* q: s% B7 Z
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
4 Z* f/ y* U! rpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed  A' X. {, ~5 _! T6 s3 g
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
1 q& N, _  a; mto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
3 s% p+ `# V- r6 }% Y' [prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
+ m* v/ @) t4 m6 ~30,000 new households will form in the province during
, \7 M4 G$ y" x7 `) g% F- N2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
/ `9 T- F! P  XEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s7 w5 A# Q. f  [4 s9 z' `; C' |
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
4 Z" B# c' R4 a- [4 ?" R2 s# Y5 Cduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta' y  ~& L+ g/ f
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new- X' j" W' C, |
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
- L  U* I! G5 L: u0 @% Hexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of5 l/ \6 n! V& p* H" i. o, V
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
/ m% m& t9 h/ ?6 B5 e' ^8 Esales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
8 @$ X5 p2 q( s2 tbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
* B% @) R/ x4 [/ y0 D1 rtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, H+ K- V: M1 q0 q& r) {5 P( ?- F! `unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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" A% e% Q" h) |, S9 Grecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the* A4 w$ Z. t/ t2 y5 q$ d
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
" I& J, o" Z  M: [* Gmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories0 j/ K/ ^! a' A6 U( l9 ]7 i5 w
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled4 ?' p1 j( I1 j. N1 c
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
+ i! v9 T7 Z0 D7 X) iThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s" t' y8 M3 q, w2 ?3 G
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced) a) H9 d0 b" o, b6 P
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale2 v" [4 m: y# o  w, N- S$ ^
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even6 w1 \: R- @! O  v. u# w2 x- K
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners' }4 _1 S& L  e( P8 W* _0 K( o; D
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( b2 m" U$ [$ L$ o, K4 u& h; w. T
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average$ i) @3 \7 O$ J* J" q
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’! E3 E1 ~6 F3 f- a8 _7 O
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% W* y- I8 \0 w- H3 H! o
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,! B% g0 p- d4 Q3 ?+ K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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