I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache2 }/ ?) {6 Q# u
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Calm down everyone please.. V4 z% g9 e8 \( g/ W5 E
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. * [! \$ N0 Z6 j% A2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 5 x% [' G* Z6 p- } f* F $ w `$ z; z% z5 C% oI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist2 _7 z" D& k# W4 [# A; P) i- P
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表8 F* O- v; }+ F) j3 G: b
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache* L5 L" r ~; Y! {
! P8 ], T- g4 c2 A/ X& vCalm down everyone please.8 \9 h% y5 ?# w' X# {! T
; Q5 o. l4 `1 j) m) [& {! ~, E不存在 can mean two different things:) Y- s" w# o# x2 V# a3 b
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.; ^1 x4 J( T# y+ \
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头# r4 q5 c7 b n- R0 u: _& i
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
原帖由 ︶ㄣ|._紸禵麯゛ 于 2006-6-8 13:19 发表1 l E/ {. h( B8 n3 c# s6 X F
balubalu,别人跟大家分享自己的宗教信仰关你屁事啊! ) H# f8 h% T( v0 V: M你不赞成你就自己去信你自己那个什么狗屎balu教。* C) t) u" h" Q4 N6 j, a
你妈的。。。自己滚回老家去吃屎。乱七八糟吐一堆屎。3 r4 ], ^3 {# U
别人的意见不需要你来评价,你是什么?你以为你是 ...
/ f$ B6 t# G" y8 F% v( N , F6 X/ N9 M$ x/ R8 WDid your GOD ask you to curse people this way?1 g2 Y3 H% A3 \" S7 p" M
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表$ n+ J5 x8 K6 }& Z' N) ^( L e$ \7 A
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! " ] J8 ~" x2 d, i4 `, ~3 X% w u3 l$ ~
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years)* H1 f# X9 m) Q! D9 U
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My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion " s; B0 U. g& X" A- j( j# a S& K / Y. X E8 c7 n' p[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]