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肉麻怎么说啊?

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发表于 2008-1-11 07:35 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表
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& D- J" s# W( v. ]0 k6 N5 a: i其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思,和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的,只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见?

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0 M$ X& y3 a2 O' z. z6 DI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:. U0 C6 Z& [. V
what about clichéd or hackneyed, are they closer? They both mean something by "overuse" but the end results still seem to difer from when I use 肉麻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-11 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
先感谢一下同学们,我稍后再来仔细学习
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:40 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表 & J4 Y" c! Z9 e& `
The following is what I found about definition of cheesy :' ^% |* U& B0 m- x) I
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  2 n7 d9 A2 N5 e
2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones.
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表 % \: F! `( _4 i+ j7 i! V( N
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:3 u, G+ o0 l; n, l
what about clichéd ...
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cliché really means overused, predictable, 陈词滥调, 了无新意.  for example, in chinese shows, to imply that a woman is pregnant , she will always suddenly rush into the washroom and start to vomit, that's a cliche scene. so cliche!. `3 ]$ F7 e4 e1 H, H& m9 V# c
but not rouma at all.
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 & z/ C: N- h! t2 j1 r
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2 a. f* m& w5 s: E1 uhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...

6 i. h3 q$ H% a+ MThanks. I will check it later on.
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发表于 2008-1-11 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 ; \$ X" h2 w- s$ c2 u

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( M5 q: |' F5 o5 N" {& v" k. ]have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:25 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表
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% ~" P; A9 z( ^3 V虽然和肉麻关系不大,很喜欢这个词!厚颜无耻!这么对应一下:& {6 g% Y7 y# n: k. `/ j1 e; U. e
impudent 厚颜无耻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:27 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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what about clichéd ...
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对,我的总结是:cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广,但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表 ! \! W' a; j5 [, T! B5 \! i
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...
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文化不同语言的应用不同,这个原理是对的,比如哥儿们,美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎,因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
: ^$ Z: J9 E1 X2 x9 R1 L3 }0 VThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :; @# d5 |5 D, F/ S; Q
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  ) [% z% I# O* o% s& q. H
2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

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+ C* g4 N$ X9 Z) a请参见20搂,我开始也是查的正统字典,觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy
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发表于 2008-1-13 23:48 | 显示全部楼层
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:08 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
/ ^/ D  O  f. H- m4 K) p+ E# H看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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Mushy
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:12 | 显示全部楼层
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另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
$ a1 _' f) j% k( k% ]; K. B& F看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看

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严重感谢!我查了一下,icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近!我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用,以求加强记忆!再次感谢!
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原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
) m+ i0 V, H6 @5 C另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy
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$ o6 o1 Y, H8 `& ]8 Hschmaltzy !太高级了这词,没见过地说!仔细钻研ing
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原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表
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Mushy
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这个对,我女儿说的。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表 # v" l* k9 T; I

$ x/ {- a+ R6 G! S9 W* X) F0 o" \这个对,我女儿说的。
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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发表于 2008-1-15 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
mushy ! X( ^0 A# h, k* w# o& C
overly romantic and sentimental
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表
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" ~3 |+ O2 x0 j& l1 b豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号,好像是那个人的名字?给人感觉很FAKE,叫CHEESY.
2 x% b. ~" g: s她说,肉麻是和LOVE有关的,MUSHY.
2 L+ x. [% h! B/ B1 }; w如果你还不明白的话,我让她来回这个帖子。
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表
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; }/ C5 ], N9 d% v& z( w# K/ K她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号 ...
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严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊!可惜俺的太小了!
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我从这个帖子学习后,又有这么个想法:肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的,如果是爱人间的肉麻,是mushy, 如果是表演过度,作假的肉麻,是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗?
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原帖由 意难平 于 2008-1-15 14:16 发表
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2 H. e" l0 ?# V8 Lcheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...

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发表于 2008-1-16 16:48 | 显示全部楼层

I thank my government

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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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2 E$ J1 F; \; l# f5 ^I agree with this one.
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One joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....( v. m) W" d  O5 P6 l
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SO 肉麻== I thank my government
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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没谱的不行不行的
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某大官考查回归前的香港, 被问及如何看待治安和黑社会时, 说了一句经典的话: 黑社会也有爱国的! 从此被广泛引申为: 鸡也有爱国的....等等等等.
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发表于 2008-1-17 09:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表
2 t5 z3 T% F7 Zwow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...

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what a bi*ch! like you have slept with every married american man and know exactly what they think about their wives.
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原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表
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: I+ G* s; A0 `- y/ gI agree with this one.
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; ^. ?, |( X6 b$ XOne joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....- }3 C7 }- w7 L, e

; i, I$ c9 @1 MSO 肉麻== I thank my government
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鹈鹕灌顶!这太绝了!!!
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哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。
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