說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
" @5 \ L( @( D. G6 S' |学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ' m0 K7 c8 x' |4 |& r6 J
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
: o+ g8 {" M: g" @& W7 ^楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 0 H& u5 }) @) I( H( t
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 % L- L' r" f7 C. F' e4 s2 z) z5 [

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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ; m. B+ W; T( L2 l0 v	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE1 T- J9 N0 k/ w# a- K
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport $ H# g( P# s, B	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 2 V& w; v2 F$ d' J
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE & ?4 ]( P0 u) g* ]- z	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX# M0 Q4 `. ]& O) L5 I; M, W2 ?
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 " e! p* k0 M: b3 a: p$ B& v	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 {; J6 d I6 R; P
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE: k9 r$ w! Y" C- T% i	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE/ Z3 r% H" b" r+ X& k
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 5 Z+ c' g* H* e	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 5 ]+ n6 z# M" j; O( i, a
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 0 l( I& X% H: A: q. T$ d, ~+ z. I	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 2 u" Z$ M5 v3 B: \
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited2 G& o5 J g+ g	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR59 k7 u, ^/ x( w8 B
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE/ e2 \|1 n8 M% D0 ]% M; E( D	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE & Y6 R; ?$ f8 n. }
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE2 u$ `& c+ k4 F	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ' \|2 q [ s) T" C
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE * c, y7 d/ O" W+ u* l	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST+ p. g& c- i9 a8 C
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited * N$ c7 k+ f+ m% y% g2 H+ ~- c	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited; X' j; F* ]( O/ a
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . i, F: `5 W5 U8 n. J) s	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX * y/ _) L6 d, f2 U
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE: z1 H9 y. o& v7 v, D	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5" Y4 p* K1 k# s1 V+ v1 e" y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE+ i, H: l+ _1 b$ f	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 3 N4 i8 W0 n# Y! \6 s) }! T
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR58 {4 y: n2 K1 ~- x	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 9 A7 { p; }& f( W5 V, v* f
• 2006 Toyota Tundra ; r* v8 M: t r( i	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT5 p( U u% b: U6 c% y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS / @; @3 l: I- n' I	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 0 [) v5 x+ a6 P! e6 \|
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 1 N: V8 g) j4 \|5 l- h; ?( A$ p	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 1 ?$ m6 [, x* z* [+ u8 Z! W
• 2006 Toyota Prius , V# k" j1 E) m" S& O1 r$ f	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry ' m( f) _7 v k( P5 B	• 1995 Toyota Pickup `1 d1 b. m3 {7 f
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring & y& ^$ k; `1 p8 I" A4 f6 d	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE + D) ? \/ `& a1 _# o
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma : a8 m9 Z) J3 v3 c$ I# v, t	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 4 q: d4 D# P- A# ]6 k
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 6 S) W8 f7 i7 U# ^0 _2 s	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton # c, }) i+ e% B; A: x0 @" h/ J
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited+ ]' P7 c' i+ b3 A. g( E	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 o; A; b# R) q9 r. e
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner; \8 v" H% Z# ?+ t5 l% @/ Y	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 0 C4 t8 G/ o7 g# r, @ f
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 k, V6 w# J- l4 d" n	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX . ^! g- _! k, O/ V6 w5 T
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S $ o2 ~9 Y0 O& d: f9 d" F. k) y	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 0 P# @ i# v' G# H, a
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ! Y+ y7 W, W2 K	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 Z/ F+ j# M, s: g K
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE " Z' q0 ^# m& A	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 8 \|3 _ F5 }/ M0 H, H2 Z2 d
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS/ t8 s& g8 W2 [! Z/ }% P- N- k; p	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 4 F3 H) H1 ^# Q3 _6 L, I6 P4 o0 a
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner4 c5 ?( ~: f/ c	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX $ J4 D1 B4 J8 i6 t3 x9 b
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 8 v* q5 C u: {% O a" T	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE4 M2 P' {# x* U* ~" _
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS& S7 I1 V, d; O	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX ' Q/ A3 M9 w* r! U8 A! C
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 - }8 d. j& t% n* H; x	• 1995 Toyota T-100 1 J: R- W" g4 j6 h# x$ u, K
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited4 a& U7 j# q. }' U	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma % R% y. r- Z6 @4 P; L
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL* n) J6 ~ y% f2 B# {% @	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 1 }% N X9 Q$ h+ q+ \|# {
• 2005 Toyota Camry 1 z6 t+ g8 f7 [4 u* U	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5( M) M0 V6 U# e4 h% P+ G
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring * K7 o, X/ u3 a R/ a% u	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX 8 T+ e" I& Q9 Q% a5 i
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE4 V0 d6 @* M3 m$ b	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX ) ^9 F1 o: ]( {0 {2 X. T
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE: T4 ?* v( m. T6 l! Z6 O1 o	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 7 G3 ^6 M) s9 v7 r
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited / p4 X" n& ]. H- {& P3 d	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5: q# k! j4 E5 H) i$ {
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ! D: @- y( d Z6 L9 ]& u7 f0 I z	• 1994 Toyota Pickup `4 g; q# M3 e4 }
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S$ L, v8 E% d' V	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE9 i) X4 c9 w4 q% l' _% e
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE & `& N/ r- t2 S0 Q5 G$ `	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 4 a8 S* z6 M6 F% b9 ~* F
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited( v# n: e$ Y+ m* A) V	• 1994 Toyota T-100 ; Z$ ^. ]% Y6 J6 y
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5+ g# g H2 U6 g/ D% `	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 ' k4 V. R) [: T
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE8 m+ s. j' n* k+ i9 J" L	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE1 \|- g5 M5 V' d- b f6 j; p
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 3 c3 L4 a m: ?( z1 j	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX8 _, n3 ^( x7 G
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 1 ]1 \|0 ^$ g& [ I	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5: G* q2 G% \6 q" y, Z& B% \$ O2 _6 _
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE + ]8 o3 S0 `& b! }	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE $ {8 K( \|! ], D5 [' `- Q' \| M
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE . X( [* l2 _- Y3 c. C	• 1994 Toyota Corolla + }. @1 s7 f U i/ r' Q7 q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited& C5 r! n& g7 e	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton " X q& z2 o! R6 q5 ^/ g
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 5 m5 X5 H% N) h( G& ~$ _; [; P% b	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE ! e; g. S: e0 {
• 2005 Toyota Prius % u0 d# {/ g1 X7 F ]# n* u	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 6 H4 D1 _ q+ e5 v& w/ P
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE$ ?/ A4 z8 Y h, A, v9 q' X	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton " W: [$ @7 @4 B: [, ~6 _
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE/ ~. t; \|# s8 B" {) E3 m" \	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' s) u2 w: U9 {! q+ `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited - ^5 E5 q$ X. _+ m o. k8 k	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX9 n1 k2 e! \|3 p5 D" t$ }0 C
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ! j3 u1 f7 f, o3 E5 p2 A9 i	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX* V; n+ v P, v! O v' d
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ) W1 ?- g$ N/ H+ o$ \|: \$ f0 P4 Z	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 4 [6 R& R8 X( z9 z2 V
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE " O% r2 P% F9 P( N6 \& N) P, F	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 O. e% W A, N: B+ M* r
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE, l! q9 n9 a2 H1 a2 o1 a	• 1993 Toyota T-100 / B Q* F; T! s- y' F. @2 N8 c
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE; ?. g1 s9 H" b. W+ N9 ~	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE" `+ X% v' b( p, ?. g& n! b
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited H/ F9 f% h! V' j( {	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 3 `8 C! V6 G7 `5 y# w8 [/ i
• 2004 Toyota Prius % m* f. e6 _ r( o8 v	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE5 R. ~2 x7 ^4 J$ N. P
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma , D& p4 c, Z/ F3 }4 d	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE) W1 Z9 S+ a3 l$ V
• 2004 Toyota Tundra - K" j! S4 B0 K/ o	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 8 V+ q4 h& d/ z2 G7 O
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE % O4 a1 j$ L* D* _5 _, L	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 8 z: \1 z% {& x9 U5 e
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited' ^; \|# F$ R: O5 z4 v	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE / P# E4 M9 \' U' D$ g
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 S/ l* X/ F3 `$ ~2 i- C	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 7 X. m4 O/ { f- n( _. k4 K" {
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE ; W1 I f1 K( t- d: I	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX; `4 \: s9 Q$ _1 h3 y
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE; c! [% _6 n# x& ] K2 n	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE * D0 K9 r/ I4 G0 M6 A8 Y
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE t4 U6 M% O/ h% Q7 a8 P& p	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac ) e. K. P4 d" b, U8 M2 w& q q
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited & A& {4 I' y2 a( W	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 2 C5 q. K( M( `, v
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ! g8 ~( [' o L	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ' q$ T0 n! n* I- s3 L. r! U; ^3 Q
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner # l5 d# {$ ?* F, L. I3 D	• 1992 Toyota Corolla % k+ Z* x! \7 U2 p
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S . Z) q6 ]/ \1 L; l9 k. T a	• 1992 Toyota MR2 6 ^5 b4 T+ T6 n# l3 B! m
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) T' \|) ?& f4 X Z! o! [3 V	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 3 M3 z0 J$ Z k: t9 Y( u6 [
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5; C, l' m9 J( o8 e3 ]/ Y	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX ( W3 r; T& V% `4 _, f5 ]1 h
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS - L8 x/ k& \ e) m$ z5 \|0 r" B$ q+ y	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac3 ^ W! v: d* Y
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner$ e7 R$ B' b- O( Q! a' v	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5. W2 W `0 d9 D& }
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S 2 d) y& U" O" w4 i	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX - k; d9 M5 Z! E% u8 u, k
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited: K. W6 @- \6 U6 ^3 C/ Z	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5# g" \|. ^2 W6 ?$ H& S) n
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner n! `8 T( u$ Y	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 m2 K# F+ ]7 j& C: v: M
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 ! \|. R! T; ^% K& I5 g% M I, `	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof& ~% `. f, P. ]8 `3 k
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 V: G6 S# F3 z" _9 r2 a, L	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE % t0 ]+ l3 `8 v
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 8 b) a" Y$ _: E$ ^. s" N! Y	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 C2 O0 G8 L5 J7 W
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT0 f0 E2 K; c+ A7 z* ?$ v7 I$ q8 T	• 1991 Toyota Camry $ U7 V9 g9 z6 S0 H' T1 _. P
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE( R$ L6 F2 N. L$ \	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser & ~- {# M) a( G9 {1 f
• 2003 Toyota Highlander w% c6 l/ G$ H. y H# E i( J	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 7 Y+ y+ j5 H4 S: N1 U6 h9 j+ N
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma / L& S# [3 C/ b, I; i	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX% l3 i( s. b2 j" F9 F
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 7 y- O+ q2 @6 ~7 j4 I5 @2 H$ }+ j" ^	• 1991 Toyota MR2 I5 H0 R6 G$ O* ~
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE1 M) F& z5 A5 r- ~/ I8 x. ?( h) C5 ?	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 / ]; d2 }; G; A6 M+ }8 h
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited" u" @/ F* g" ?: \|4 Q4 W	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ) p; b, p2 c$ v+ i
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE3 G. Z. f% a. F# _	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # l; Z; c, P$ a. s* B& y7 y3 x
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 1 ` ^! j5 T3 I	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac6 T+ k; f# ^4 q- `7 H4 s
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE- x" ~, m7 U& B; X6 s	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof5 B; j& z# P. Q7 x- u' ^" g* P
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE ' N/ ]6 { i& @& ~ ]	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX" G! L) B( y+ ]9 ?3 I# k, Z
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited ( N/ d2 K: I# G	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE8 Y1 \|4 r8 g! u. U& u+ \|" j; l
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited# c+ K9 v: a5 ?, z4 v5 P2 \|	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 8 D2 U5 `+ s V# p( R
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited # h/ w# ]1 }; Z1 C9 l' ^. }	• 1990 Toyota Pickup , \|0 {: g; K) ^1 s
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 5 Z+ @+ K, v6 M; C5 G& @	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE. b# V2 F6 F M* g; u. M" Z8 z
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE , w7 t! V/ u; a& f; `, n" O	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR50 j7 G+ ^0 ~- l# A# U
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 6 h/ S0 ^$ w2 l1 Z$ S3 e" c	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ% r6 ]' u& z' c, z& N* M, I/ ^/ [
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 8 \|/ g: z1 n V7 B; R	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT$ F& W. t% ^8 @% R( V/ U
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT & C9 [# G+ @( j; @) V	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 3 E+ t6 \# `4 N9 V
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ! `& y5 E9 w- L0 l8 N	• 1990 Toyota Camry / ^, D. k* y2 w1 k8 w1 s
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S . Z) i3 U, p4 v5 S	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST* a( t+ J6 {7 P: ?
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 5 L8 w, _* T7 u1 s6 `	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX0 J: `) J. U$ @9 G
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) V& o: ^' f4 w	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ! Y$ r' M/ l% b1 Q
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 / Z3 N& B* P# i$ Q" j% m	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ w( q# C* v( A: F3 [
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) p% D# L I1 f( b# Q	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS4 d! n6 S! i. M0 W& \. p
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE) b' h; {$ j6 h! E. t& _	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser " y9 O1 E% @' e% {& a+ p
• 2002 Toyota Prius i9 t5 ?, f, t! {9 T	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton2 r u( F; l% [$ b5 ]0 ^- U: V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . j+ V. G% ]9 }2 \! H	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX , {) n2 F" m3 B; U1 e
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS7 \|, s+ p) N. k	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ( Y7 ?( z9 N6 ]7 a9 @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE" o& F- E% ], V% i	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac7 Y' ]% S0 R, V, q
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 2 Y8 j; B# A: p! e# _4 I+ j	• 1990 Toyota Tercel * U; M6 X# B$ U' `
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 0 m2 ]' @0 h4 R& ]	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ( J) f' P. r0 @# b
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 2 n D/ K; x9 Q	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac. F" c! u+ Q- s5 B* Y9 O/ e' v
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 4 _. Y" p: y' t- y! \. I	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ' ^, D8 H' K+ s2 }
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL ; p5 m% V! a" ?4 Y) p	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base( }6 \( r" ^0 q2 m9 Y
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited 2 \+ ]0 h; R8 f) Q1 H: H/ V- K& j	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- e8 t8 K; U- Q& \+ } }
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT ; a3 w: j5 _2 q$ P- E, E	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser , v- g1 V. t1 r- Y1 u3 n
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE ( k. \|1 M7 }0 c: A& M' \	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE$ B9 M, ]5 D: V! k5 Z/ \|) x6 e
• 2001 Toyota Prius - N+ Z' T, \3 ?2 s4 I. ?	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX5 f1 \|% I! i0 Y) z1 g! u
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma " W3 f! Z: j: X# \|' @& i4 b3 z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton2 G J' l( v/ G+ t
• 2001 Toyota Tundra L# \7 }; H$ I* B" l	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger( d3 J l) p# g e5 y+ j
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE q# b/ f }# Q& i) r	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX0 x+ D9 M; q0 ~# h
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited . i1 H7 A3 v" A! a1 a& m5 R {	• 1989 Toyota Camry ) m, L5 [7 g* D' p
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2 U0 Q1 c0 {4 `# _0 `9 n- v O( u/ c	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 4 g) r8 ^2 O2 i6 G1 P- s: z) ^
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE ! M& l6 c2 i! M9 W( T, E; [	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX- E' O) Z) U! ^) l$ i+ f
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE2 p5 N \|- d% P; t# f	• 1989 Toyota Pickup ! P* D S s0 i) _
• 2001 Toyota ECHO * N, t) ~* N2 S* z2 z& i	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 v: v: \|6 b$ U1 U* W) }
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS' C4 Z8 A2 x, \|3 R- ^/ ]' ]	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger" E2 r0 h: g$ u- E1 f2 m5 i
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE + Q) V8 a8 V, A. J* L# y0 V* t	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ $ g( Y$ W& T6 q; V+ S7 g
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * j$ B* j. s! g" o: i	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel- J/ k7 f2 i$ P# ^) Z
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner9 d ^' w: Z ?! f	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX2 i; G: O1 x. t% v
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS ) w* P9 k8 n* N$ N2 U3 }* G	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ! F, s4 D, r- M8 Y4 F
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 6 V R8 e! \5 M8 \& ~- k$ i) o	• 1988 Toyota Camry # ~+ n' ]9 y, x0 W$ B+ R
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 H0 ?0 E0 g$ r3 p0 \|	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ' T5 `8 Z4 z" P: P5 q) B, D
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5* i; n) U4 z& b/ k2 `2 e" B7 ]# s, s	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger. A8 _! I6 F" f0 e% C
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE! p! ]3 X! X+ s" P" Q, \- \|! w0 ~! Y	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ; ?5 N3 ^3 k. ~/ U% i9 S/ Z& l
• 2001 Toyota Highlander % Y5 V; X0 Q0 J& w! ~, z' U6 I	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ; y: S3 G0 h3 [! C- z3 U, f/ O9 M
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 7 l k2 m& U) s( h- u* ~: z	• 1988 Toyota Van DX+ v( u) P2 \% H
• 2000 Toyota ECHO . z' K! v0 h6 h* h% E- @, l	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger" c& i) ^( j" I" D6 C
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 1 E# P s, _$ L- {- K' W1 W	• 1988 Toyota Tercel / g, R. X! @% n- @) Y& d; Y
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT $ i6 D# U* H/ i+ d' Y, Y9 O	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE: v3 e3 z. a* h6 L: p( R/ E* F
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE& \|) Y4 ~" G8 N# [* `- A; C! j	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window) C8 B1 M- e' r0 k
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 % F6 x1 T5 E, ^8 m9 i2 E% J	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton1 j6 R+ {7 {2 U4 ^1 a! K4 }4 A
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! X/ R. \, d, \|& \|	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser $ G9 p8 _. t+ Y* H( j) i
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 G0 k4 s6 p5 v" ~6 K6 l* y& ?	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 1 \' m3 _8 q) o G
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 s% A( G/ t4 \|' N9 f8 Z	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger! u$ k, v: G$ A6 b% m6 t- w, m
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 7 F3 b k9 E6 `. i	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B $ H7 L' c$ S% u
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 2 n" J; E# A' T1 v	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 6 Q! ~6 z8 ^+ V0 a
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE + I7 L4 Q/ E) ?0 s' t& T, D k	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger5 \|9 f" ^- J' j3 B! y8 {7 G! t
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 3 f: H' N* I1 L0 ]: m	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 9 N2 k7 ^8 j: g% w: M1 G
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited- E( B" S, a# v0 l( j _	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX0 X; M b; b; }; C5 f8 h1 X
• 2000 Toyota Tundra # M0 Y8 ^& o: J- {& I	• 1988 Toyota Van LE : u: K/ E& z/ d2 o
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS, v( S4 Y0 ~* \|	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ) l2 ?4 J$ C( G" ]$ h
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE , w! V; h \|9 v" X. [4 g	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 f4 {0 s( K% K% N$ c/ o
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited: k/ a2 a9 d( {7 F4 R	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE ( h- g0 h) Z# F+ N! T7 c) r
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 5 V j5 x: n* \|5 Y3 @; } v	• 1987 Toyota Van DX 4 S4 X7 e$ W3 Z
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE* ]- C$ o+ j* k" ^+ r) {. l- u" C2 \* g	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window: J4 {1 i ]7 p/ f
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' K, O Z; U) z" L( f9 A3 K3 \	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton + X- s1 t5 N3 g/ D* o- {' p
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE ! t% w# T( ^% ?$ ?4 o( y	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 7 A1 e! S$ [7 ~7 y/ q% @7 j `* \|
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL : E6 U9 \|6 \, Q	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX * {' R/ c% Y; T- E6 Q6 @# k
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner , @9 G' F: s, `4 B3 Y	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 7 ]4 n! q- X0 n% m
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE! K# V" q+ R4 G3 t) U, J	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX$ S. _/ f' N6 t0 a1 U. _7 ^+ a
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 M! B5 @; I: n# H) h& _) C	• 1987 Toyota Van LE4 p3 ?9 h r9 g
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE( B" P* c l- e$ {2 t9 y4 U	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel8 o! q2 ^- a! O2 S' }( o& \4 l
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE 9 ^( o$ m p+ p	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX 3 ^( A2 s/ o5 B9 L0 U+ s
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Z. Z- V2 Z. R, m# j$ M% Q	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 4 y) y* h& V+ H
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS3 X* R# Y4 C; j	• 1986 Toyota Van LE " O3 M2 K5 r6 K: p8 {
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 8 J8 e4 ~# R+ i% g+ m	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 m) O8 u, W% W1 u! ]
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 {8 n# Q2 m m1 V) ^- x. U' @; L	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel+ W( ~# z0 {8 d0 R
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 $ }" \|) B5 @2 z6 X0 D+ w+ p+ M	• 1986 Toyota Van DX6 a* _: i5 X' C! T4 i0 x
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited3 ]: z7 J! H9 {( z+ ~. D	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window- `, C( L" u! U% u; d0 l
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE - \|, ~) T3 N2 _: D* k* G/ g	• 1985 Toyota Van ( D# [7 ~" P: d, c H1 E
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE! s5 ^ m: v4 R! ^; F/ N/ m/ ` d	• 1985 Toyota Van LE $ p& v! h, q8 H" h
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL; C. S. j$ y- r1 i5 J	• 1985 Toyota Van DX " v, u2 Q4 M6 G
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE 9 \# {& ~3 ?3 S: N3 d+ U, X0 p	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser ) \0 o: i2 V9 j0 d
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited$ v4 N$ ^9 O- v! C' @- Y	• 1984 Toyota Van DX $ U- ]5 N/ p2 k7 ?0 e
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 4 y0 J9 F! O7 o9 F: J6 Z5 c2 H% ` N	• 1984 Toyota Supra ; d1 p3 \|0 r, h
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 5 k9 L. W6 \* ]/ S4 R	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX ) N* `+ {; M7 K8 h
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE4 V4 S5 d$ ^! s+ T) i3 }	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 S/ G$ P9 T1 U; V( ~) C$ a
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited8 s1 F% M; ]7 Q& w! x# H' x, v	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 1 B; l5 G8 i+ _; B
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 P- r; L# }1 z3 T, n	• 1984 Toyota Van 4 d# K- u* ]0 \ F! m* H7 h
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE - A# P7 P; {: y* P" w	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE 0 b9 g8 u5 Z2 _" g( ]- X' ~
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner & B) m* x4 K5 d	• 1984 Toyota Van LE ! G3 K0 H7 [5 i, F; N/ c, l& O- q7 l
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE ; C) W3 J+ [ O3 f& f' Y3 ?	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE4 w1 _2 v$ @6 p$ l. ^
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX1 Z5 U8 b" \7 j" ?) }- C	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5" B# v" g: e+ ?- b$ X) [
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , l; P& f: o' F% g8 Q$ @) K$ O	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX # N/ @6 F2 u" ^ S: l! t* A
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE : W8 h5 Q% Y- a8 H/ ~3 ^$ h$ C2 _	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE * H2 A' E; r* G. B
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE' F; @6 ~8 T$ @! k- O, U8 \# S( \|	• 1983 Toyota Supra / O8 } L" V, P3 u
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ( Y6 A% k- Z0 k6 X2 O/ }	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 u3 r; i' [( h$ w
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 8 ^6 O0 r$ B; g6 }+ B A3 b) i	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX! \|1 y }7 [4 B" A6 z+ F5 o! B$ M
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE - T% J- z( d+ r& U( G) c4 X1 q$ Q$ d	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 2 y8 y* \5 Y. ~( a7 L3 T8 u
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. u7 p! Q ?# r7 L" z8 u! J. j; i	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 9 I/ X1 A# O& V: Z. k( e
• 1998 Toyota T-100	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser , C8 S0 F- K0 {1 d4 B1 ?
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited ( R7 k' b( ?0 f% X) V	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 8 B4 c- Z9 A/ o( L
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE ! `, e, }1 p4 N" j) q9 R% P	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX - T2 Q- i) u" h/ y, h1 y, ]; E2 F
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 - Z9 _/ @8 C: g1 p	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST' u2 `, A/ t7 w3 x% h
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5+ h2 I/ _: H2 E, q4 R	• 1982 Toyota Tercel - T2 t) q# Q, w+ A" w7 }
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX) o) G6 T+ P$ W/ K: ~	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5# Z1 _6 _; N9 X f( \|
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma & ]: d3 m) e9 B% `9 z4 N4 A [	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 6 v/ S$ d/ D. U& h+ s
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS3 Y% L8 ]2 q8 [8 L- o/ g5 `/ w; P" q! D. p	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR56 V1 ~5 r4 f3 c3 @5 {, V( Q. z
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX : U- D0 @$ K( h& L7 O# Z	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 B2 g9 i4 R" P6 l' Y8 y
• 1997 Toyota T-100 ' A7 ^- {" }/ J. d/ X, l, j	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX ! Z7 s2 r& S/ s& H
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited Z1 X& g. T# W5 n0 O8 f. `- b3 @& Y	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 5 d/ W l( T7 v8 y
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 7 i" l+ @! \|0 k	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT 7 r4 D; [ i \|; w) e1 I' U
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 f, a5 R9 A$ j: I# ^! y	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 7 t5 c" z# r& q; }
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ! Q t) K) _/ {	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser / y% Q4 v0 M' ^+ c: N! \% H9 w
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 / ?# v! T0 s6 p' @& z	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 4 u2 e( ^: q9 O; j. U- ~; _$ G
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL 9 E. z& D; `( l1 {) y6 ]5 `	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX& I: `0 \|; q1 S
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE/ E. p9 h9 N' M/ ^/ a' d5 g* B ~	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST & e, R% {7 `$ H! d
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 8 _, v2 y1 E* x9 r	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury5 Z( f" ^7 a/ L9 S5 w' h
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE3 F/ Z% J F% A' ~9 b4 J2 b	• 1980 Toyota Tercel + {8 Q7 n- ^8 ]) x
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE ( \/ q( \|4 V4 G1 d6 ~9 G, N* d	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR57 \) s/ a8 Q' [
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX . Q3 f* J* D. s/ r	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe 7 c% }0 u7 T$ P0 M1 [( @
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE " ?" \# W6 s/ {	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 + q+ V+ Z4 i3 s/ X7 U
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5" ?1 M' i7 Q, I6 b* G' q1 a7 [0 ^

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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, Z6 ` M) h( v3 t( L* y, Q* t! \% t如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：2 a6 Z. k. y( A& F& @& t% e
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
! t9 l; s% R9 e; b• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
7 A' @+ v9 V. H3 D. v&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
& S) s' F- }/ N! I$ ?April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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- M  \/ H0 O( }% d  d# `, K2 H0 i佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。' |# R) l& N! \1 T
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
( `' C$ E, s; @+ d# L, V  g3 o0 Y1 p* T4 Q) S  R
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
( v+ k% \9 @7 |2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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