說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
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冷眼看世界

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

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酸葡萄

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
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精品中年老男人

悦耳的鸟

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan

仁者见仁，智者见智。 北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：
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1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”
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    http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

) j% `$ W& {; z- v2 |" e, m7 K1 H2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars
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      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3)   Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness
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衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

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& Y6 ~$ Z. |/ z4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."


就我的经验， 各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜， 便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
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Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE 5 n- T, ~7 a& k4 w	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE + Q- J6 S. t. N* ~0 w
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE $ b' Q+ j3 m( n$ j
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE ; }  C4 M0 h' P1 T4 _1 _
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE , v" c, B$ S, J2 D$ u! F# w	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 8 A7 h3 \& F9 ?' ?$ T, j" |
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid : }+ h9 ?6 i  o# |4 G	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ! |! m+ Z7 s& d# H& B% X9 C
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE 1 d% D6 `, |& R" T, l	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE 1 z0 t; \2 F% u2 }3 |+ d
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE 8 ]0 G- R1 ?; ]+ F- b3 Y0 ~8 ^: z. x	• 1996 Toyota T-100
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 8 ]8 }% I! f5 `- X, J  n3 u) S1 |	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited 8 d- x9 t- F/ B/ W! @
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 a; L# f. e% y: m8 r& D9 w  O. P	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ; }' C+ m" j2 ]
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 7 y( C& L  m, d5 w0 S( N1 O	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 1 f/ t! e. C8 H2 l7 H7 o. A& b  `	• 1996 Toyota Tercel
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 " Q, ~# d& V" ^; e6 U$ m	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2006 Toyota Tundra : @; g+ i+ V# ?5 U1 h8 j	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 5 b9 x# T$ ]4 ~0 i4 A, k1 k	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL % n! h5 Y' m7 N! G$ s( H	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner   `% z' V9 m8 V9 x2 }
• 2006 Toyota Prius 0 F6 m( t* V% P	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota Pickup - i' n7 k8 u: p( X: ^3 ]2 L
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ' A$ L7 o! m$ Y! W3 E/ A9 W8 w
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 - ~3 n8 B( ~/ ?9 ?2 ~5 s
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 & e' ]$ a; D, u/ v, y' E
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S : E0 J2 e2 y) {; m9 [" _( L	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' ]' u1 \1 S- S+ W6 r& M2 V& e
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1995 Toyota Tercel / `1 n  r  G& V
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1995 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Tundra	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 1 c7 [/ R2 Z: F* Q	• 1995 Toyota T-100 % B* U) u- B9 E5 U2 G- R/ g$ \7 H9 P
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma / z0 K- y3 J  T9 A3 H' O, ?2 S; J
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5   w  h5 s6 S, V0 F! i
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX - h1 t1 w9 T% U* e7 F- k( m
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 5 x  l8 z7 Q! M
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 2 _/ A& a' \: g) c( X: E	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 2 ]# s5 T( Q% g4 p8 n. h	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 0 m9 ^' D+ x& g) ?
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 I3 C, c( R" n$ a/ `; V; R3 t: [	• 1994 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 . l' n$ h: M4 o	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 " G) Q) d0 Q7 M3 o4 B6 o
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE   O! l# N' S6 i	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 ) q* o1 g) T+ h4 ]) _2 [' A	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ; C  `! y! q9 `( M, D" _	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , p: D& O+ H+ \$ S) R& f9 M$ P
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE & W# k3 g1 B, x- l% w
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE ; c- w) h1 e: \; _: e% d. G0 O	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 8 N  Z# I" L% j$ q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton
• 2005 Toyota Highlander	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE . h  Q' Y* V8 H3 ?# s6 A
• 2005 Toyota Prius 2 Z" n/ J# `0 m. n( J9 _	• 1993 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE ) s2 X! s+ R: r% H" b) _' r; o	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX + }$ D  Q/ E  I* |: ?
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 0 q4 v  T" x& d- k8 x	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 I1 P" J" E2 V
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100 6 g9 R- t' b: D4 s6 b/ D" z
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 3 M+ _: |" W; {2 q! _! H* Z) e	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE % T& {4 R6 ^3 n+ O7 u* U
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1993 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Prius	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Tundra	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 2 ?, i7 U8 y  P- r' b
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE ! N; Y% @7 X8 H4 K	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited 0 F. z7 M6 A8 [	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX , @+ n( C! ~3 \# Q8 r3 ^' R
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE " Z6 w! J  c7 z/ I4 a1 ~1 ]	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE & N$ O$ ]9 a5 {5 f9 ]# A
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac 2 \% Z, Q# Q: e8 O& e: c% P
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ( Q! n% O  S  C- v$ y/ r, N# C	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 8 n2 I" H; s! K1 w	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 8 ]" B3 z4 K# ]7 Y
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 1 `- k1 B/ e; ]
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 5 i3 f9 v  `3 ?* U8 e; m/ S% l	• 1992 Toyota MR2
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 3 v( w( h( @* e+ F	• 1992 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ; D0 u! F- v- r+ q4 w	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited " E; T( p; O8 J1 A5 k) ^8 r	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 p8 w# X; h, D
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 z% w  ~* K7 h+ w8 x
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 8 ^8 O6 z* a  B+ b5 G3 x	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 8 s3 H% ?$ Q* @& x) f	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 4 U, ~+ |5 C1 r; R  o1 J7 {
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT	• 1991 Toyota Camry
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2003 Toyota Highlander * @4 S: Q5 c: {1 a5 G	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 1 v7 ~- I4 Z  ?. n
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma * f) |" x, u! ^, Q/ t- X% G4 `	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ) [' D2 X0 b! z0 A6 j) T) }  i
• 2003 Toyota Tundra . j3 ?* @5 Q, {% x0 b; x/ y! d	• 1991 Toyota MR2 # o' F' E6 s6 Z
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited + M% e4 L: C/ P5 u2 C5 G& h	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac   C7 d! l& R# F" I1 i% ?8 o
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE 3 [# f" f( c$ m* w; Q  L/ N2 Q3 Y+ t	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE " {; R1 z! h+ b# v# Y, M	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX ( t  k% v8 d5 B2 T
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE + M- g- e% t$ g. h3 Q# h
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited   c$ v2 k, R( j! f1 ~: c( H	• 1990 Toyota Pickup + E- h  \4 S" }+ d/ o# ]
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ) B$ V- h$ ]9 Q8 E	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ! a* v# [( {- X
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited : ?$ I- d9 H) V$ X" ~	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT . D+ M: H; ~: }. ]
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 2 ^, \2 r  G# {+ c) ]
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1990 Toyota Camry * G6 O7 |# i( m  W
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S # N2 c. v/ F* z2 ~	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST
• 2002 Toyota Highlander	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX & \4 t, ]( ^) H2 w% y' F" c3 I0 z
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS ) H4 E. o9 i" B9 o
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE % K% i1 j8 K! |1 @	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2002 Toyota Prius 5 t! a1 U. {1 T& J  H	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ; i1 A7 t% k) D' g
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX " p' h9 Z6 J4 a
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS   @. k0 G, F9 U	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ; t7 P: t1 O0 f# h  |
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac - m5 V6 N+ M* V5 Y
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ; ?% Z! Y2 y) a	• 1990 Toyota Tercel
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ' |0 b9 i. X  C8 C3 _	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ) |+ U5 Y6 K1 p) L- q: y	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # y8 W- G% D; q$ z7 c1 A1 P
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE , H" M- K4 L% s. U- b* X/ O. q	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base # N: {1 L7 m  ~0 b* J
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac , X' a7 N  B3 `8 s  F' O
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT - I4 B+ H) Q! G0 V7 F	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ! t: }" p8 R* o: l8 R; j+ m# S/ z
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE ! S8 x1 A2 j3 O9 L	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE
• 2001 Toyota Prius 1 R; c4 C4 h( _% y6 B8 t	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma & v3 p5 R3 f2 F" h6 p* G5 d7 l	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 9 B: U, S, U9 N$ N. e7 |. r	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 2 L* _" r, J( P0 t	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX # \" T9 [: t& q9 g
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited 9 W3 f/ u- F& B, a" O	• 1989 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1989 Toyota Tercel + U/ |! |$ x, T, ~" K
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE * |* }7 D) \& X" U- y	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 7 Q5 D( u/ A3 z8 W) w# {
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1989 Toyota Pickup
• 2001 Toyota ECHO - a, Y8 Z$ ~2 u	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS " }4 V" d: F. H4 V	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE : v5 o$ t. k2 L: B; k% i( K8 Y' j	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 c# M9 E1 k+ R9 t	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 0 H7 E6 o) l- a) S+ v% H
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX ) l( W8 H. _" b! j5 `
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS ( e+ O% J! w1 l	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ! t' b/ r: j" d* g	• 1988 Toyota Camry * c; U9 `$ X1 l4 M* k
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1988 Toyota Pickup
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 " u+ F/ S" g( p. L5 X	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ( V( o7 ^9 x- b7 L) s8 e8 |) l
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 ~# w- {' B; o& ?  W
• 2001 Toyota Highlander	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac # \( I6 l& n3 g* l  }* y
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 4 K2 c2 F: S6 Z& m" e
• 2000 Toyota ECHO	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma	• 1988 Toyota Tercel
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT * Y& v' Q+ F3 y; s5 z( L	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE % x! f' F& N$ x4 C
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 2000 Toyota RAV4	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton - f6 p8 y* s6 `& c, ]
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ' r) @" J$ B8 z$ b9 X6 B: a5 B	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; P( {: a* M, R( `& Y2 p# A1 M	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited % f& ^; B% S" V9 V	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ; O& V& F- r, \2 y& E; x. @9 i
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE ) V  O- E- B: b" x* p, W, I	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 1 T. b( B6 ^: I2 r7 Q" l* y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2000 Toyota Tundra	• 1988 Toyota Van LE
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS / M7 j$ D+ W: v' K	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 ) k  N) G/ H6 d& ?- K
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 P3 R# ?9 m" A- z: F/ J; a" w9 @8 [	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE : y7 x( V# T% B  P
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner	• 1987 Toyota Van DX
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE & g1 `7 H% p2 C2 s2 ^	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 R( ]! n: q7 ~. Y5 D	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE 7 ?% @2 f! R  |$ M6 V	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 9 q5 D$ l+ u- g& f# f
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX 0 p8 P2 E4 K! t0 C' \
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner	• 1987 Toyota Tercel $ l" A- ?" W. x  v) U8 c! @0 a. q# ?1 ]
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX & w6 z( M* Y3 ?  t& i! k! E- G
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) E* L) m& W  `4 v  z9 Q9 G	• 1987 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma & ?' C- y5 w& V( s7 ^8 s) X	• 1987 Toyota Pickup
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS 2 a: _! n" w6 L1 s. n2 x	• 1986 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE # Z2 @3 Y+ n+ D/ x6 J	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel * o" ]/ ^% K7 F9 ]: b5 v$ K" Y
• 1999 Toyota RAV4	• 1986 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited & V, c' ]2 P5 d	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE	• 1985 Toyota Van # R3 b7 ^" G& S" {. Y! D/ N
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE % t+ F2 z" B5 d* _% u	• 1985 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1985 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1984 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1984 Toyota Supra $ m# N5 Q0 G8 q( U
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 4 H9 W) D; p; a3 D$ x0 L	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited . |) R& t5 |- P8 H/ ~3 {: y" e$ V	• 1984 Toyota Cressida
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS . Y, u: \6 N9 E, I% i7 M( q	• 1984 Toyota Van
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 0 Y% w1 N7 r  S; G) C	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE 0 F3 M  h, m) }: I9 N, m* L
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner	• 1984 Toyota Van LE
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 2 Q( L  N. D& d6 U0 |	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE / H/ ^6 t6 x3 A; m/ K' j
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX . M% p# g6 p" V) v	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 ; Y- q7 b3 \7 k9 }
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX - K6 {* O3 ^$ @) z# m& s) ]
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1983 Toyota Supra & |7 |8 ~6 R. A! ?
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma , e$ ], g8 }' V/ Y! i$ E; R; j5 ^) i	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1983 Toyota Cressida % M9 t2 @1 b$ F. H' w2 G  q
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ( {, v2 r3 m1 ]- v) P+ Y	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 T# N$ j8 Y' n6 j" z
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited , y4 o# d7 H, s	• 1982 Toyota Cressida . V0 s6 g; ^: z, l( u
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 3 t) @% Z5 T& v6 b% D3 Q
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ( f! P$ I5 }+ t! G- q	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 0 K" ?5 u& x6 O8 ]4 z. x6 G" W
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1982 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX 1 a) [! ]2 O7 w4 d% [$ V	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 + \8 B# `% j5 T1 Z& E" X6 \
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma	• 1981 Toyota Tercel : E0 O# g+ @2 `& ^* k  j3 b4 @% [+ l
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS . ?6 r% z0 C- h7 q	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 8 i9 g0 K: ?! b- S1 {8 G( C4 b
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 5 c+ W; r' ?4 Y% b! F	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota T-100 & A! X. a* ?$ r$ I! K% t	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited 6 ]9 l; O9 r& F; m6 U( h	• 1981 Toyota Cressida
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT ( T1 D3 v$ M7 D4 j# x- t; a
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla
• 1997 Toyota Corolla	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser $ V6 E* E, X  \
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe % X  N  O6 O3 \! v' L- D
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL 8 _9 N1 a# H+ w# {	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX & c) m& E; B5 V9 v1 M
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE * @4 ~1 V! F& b3 l. B" {) Z	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury , G' O* ]3 V; q; V' |6 [5 f
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX : T: b* k1 Z* e# T) g4 `% Q$ M	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ v: k3 R- B, p& O3 Q. i0 u

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表

) U8 ?6 A# b4 t4 o6 R: q8 z+ v8 B# M  K如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
/ q! ^: p7 }2 u& \7 Z  cToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
. c! K1 l' e- X- j% M( r• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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. d0 Y( u9 `$ O由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
1 Y: H- V; P4 x: u2） 同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3） 如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。
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/ E# e) m& ]  d6 J4 l9 k- |最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。
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9 O/ c) T. ~, Z+ _作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

9 E9 W* A8 @' O/ ~* v3 HThanks for the information!

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
% f& Y- b9 U' D7 F/ ?6 b) ]# p7 B
: m) C0 Q, Y$ f由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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  [) _" Y7 d2 I8 i1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2） 同 ...

0 w. p! |! ~  y% D; ^让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。
楼主。
; i- \  L( ^- e- E( E 老杨。

松杉

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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