說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
V/ P; I5 P1 s7 `, q) R; {7 g7 p学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
0 v. x; d) q2 C, z4 @楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 * `: |) ^( I! o' u0 s; ^7 f
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 7 {& K$ s) @7 {" F, ~5 T8 _

" s% T) K7 n" F4 n( \* d a; j看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 " ?% B# W& Z0 e# ]6 {

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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE- J h4 N/ o. z2 k* V; x	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE . Q- U/ g# z+ c7 q- l# j) t. M
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport( C3 S- H# U% B J; a% ?7 g	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE ; A. f0 a2 D% h" Z
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE5 q, v( w7 B2 k; M	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 1 n# t0 l8 u6 \|( F* U3 s! V8 o
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5' T2 _) c* M( I& H0 F M	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 T6 ?: Q2 V! K( w) I) O
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 5 Q& v5 F. \* B3 \& k	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE , d5 F% l! N# T$ R% A( D) }- p. s
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE6 [! _+ G- I; P( \|	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX3 \|2 I6 o, `8 J9 [" k: e( B" l
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid - u I! j" x, O	• 1996 Toyota Corolla $ i, C7 c; I4 i9 W% T( U9 q5 Z
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited & G& O# W' W$ y) z/ T	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 5 k- T/ ~; f0 u! o. e+ b
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE , i' e+ D+ Q' m8 w) }# M	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE 8 m2 {; f T i( H! U
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE ! Z' k! J5 H* ~9 u. K! @	• 1996 Toyota T-100 " ~3 a+ n2 s9 U
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE ^2 F# t5 ]; w! C$ f: e0 ~) P	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST( w; a4 r/ \|, j! Y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 4 D3 e9 O; o0 C; D& q; y	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited : `. M9 z4 [) A- X2 x
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ( d& r9 _5 b, y/ s @	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX * e, t7 b9 R3 t9 \* [" p
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE5 [9 i/ C9 k' G" n0 F	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 ! A& r& h2 ]+ L% x0 m
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 4 C, f# z. T8 t5 X	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ! e9 ^( y5 A' V n4 r) y3 u4 n
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 {% @9 z( a3 F- _% T* q# ]; G	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX ) O R) Z, }$ e" G5 f
• 2006 Toyota Tundra , V- C! I, U* U* }; F! ^8 c8 u: n	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT2 k' s8 e/ g \|7 v; E/ K
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS + y( e2 S- f4 l' m: N	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 9 k! v) _7 v4 J" t4 T. _
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 6 n$ K. b+ A5 ?0 i" {5 U7 X& m	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner $ F' f6 O0 Q7 G, n7 ]5 `- K
• 2006 Toyota Prius x' j: T. y. I" w% E) J, l& i$ K	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX / j8 P5 u/ c/ S% q% I+ p6 K$ \|
• 2006 Toyota Camry 2 {; Q6 K3 Z8 f7 m	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 1 K; ]! F7 u5 f0 D& ^, W! }& k
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring + ~ }. R* T! a	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE- J- ^3 \|: p. ]" @! Z( N
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma ! v0 s& f8 n3 S% \| `7 m5 b0 z	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE " ? p, I4 O) d+ Q
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE, P5 h; e2 B. G# i	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton ' C1 Z. j7 `9 n0 @
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited. H1 D( p* b5 y( ]0 ^ Q, \	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 0 C. c, j" Z& w3 Z/ `% L
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner1 q7 s: Q$ O0 J7 t5 B% c	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR57 k* R/ d7 z1 a: y% X" O" ]9 p7 Z
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5- ?. b+ e/ a/ y& H' E* D& t9 \|	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX) m9 v4 A, h8 v' Q/ I3 q
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 5 M5 a) f# m: f5 T	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 5 s* t4 d+ K: ~% B: [* G; a
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited . w9 B( v. N8 U4 s6 C	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / I8 E3 q; V( Q: _5 S' x
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE z* A; `% y9 {! W5 x' C	• 1995 Toyota Tercel . v) T4 p& Z7 Y9 ~. }
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 9 d5 S j* M& o9 i' h	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ( X( t; \|9 ?# K: m u
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 p. }0 ?6 ^, R P2 R( K3 m	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX3 c \|4 W2 c+ N& l
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 2 f E+ M" q8 i2 X	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 7 O' D7 J( L8 C6 E4 `& {* N3 l
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS ' o/ E7 \1 \' i6 I9 P6 q2 Q* r$ `	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX6 h+ G/ _( D( O. T
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5, n& D. {7 l- p	• 1995 Toyota T-100 6 b9 D6 ] ~2 C* ]! o, C: P$ ~ t
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited7 _9 d0 g& i- Y3 a, y	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 1 C2 B: u5 E* t! B3 s
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL) w4 ^5 z0 o0 o1 G' i	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE+ ]3 K% A8 X! ~! }" L4 G; y0 N
• 2005 Toyota Camry * {$ t1 b. \. a. D0 Z0 C# E	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR53 Z- Z3 m J4 `' ^
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring ! S6 Y8 T% S# N9 _. X3 W+ b* h( S	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX ) y+ r4 X; E1 f1 U \
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE0 V& X% o- x7 }4 M6 p' s# ^	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX8 H) H' K* u) g: R# Y4 y
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE& x2 s! o5 I. W; @' L	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX % j3 V( `+ \ f* B/ e
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 9 @4 p R. ]; g) k4 R& \|	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5; \. M& K" D& y/ Z. P
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma : q5 `- t2 {+ z4 J6 @& S. B% v	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 6 B0 q p4 a0 Z# ^
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S; `% R, p9 o/ N. i	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE0 D% d7 J* _+ h
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE; x9 j; o$ H) I$ L: A$ s	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE q4 e0 U: c5 ?% w9 v( y
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited / w! p% A* `# B. }% ^7 ^2 }: s: Q% d	• 1994 Toyota T-100 8 C0 V6 Z& v) p
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 / f7 _* y+ B% v, P8 H1 A: Y2 ]	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 2 N5 c: \ J% G' V" {
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE: c; a, C- z2 }7 q6 S	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE% h( L% a6 O0 [
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 ! p0 F7 r( f8 d	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX5 O0 p# d0 h, y, z8 x- e9 `
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 3 M, P1 K3 C. ]: U' `	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 f7 C/ a& @4 w* N: O- n
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE " V; ]: e& G, Z0 O6 }$ q3 X& U1 G	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 5 c5 \|2 t1 M! V; U8 n, b' [5 [) Y
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE " t% i4 n% s& k2 z* g, H	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ! J# x6 N% E' }# A! G
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 3 r$ w1 B2 S; p# U1 u	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton h% R2 c# ?% f3 ?
• 2005 Toyota Highlander " N5 t% v& @5 X5 b0 W- w	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE9 o. D6 M; H/ D/ R- Y9 W( D6 i
• 2005 Toyota Prius , j! _! r5 z, M2 E& y	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 5 O. Y6 i1 u# A1 A' H* \2 m9 n
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE ) H5 d- \|# u, S( M) x. U" q3 U	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton " {2 C7 \|. c' B" c7 m
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE( l/ m* {9 T5 e' k- E, M	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . c8 x2 c1 n2 q2 E' g
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited+ l$ i, T5 P1 Y P5 e	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX8 f+ L! j" t& N8 S
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5# s$ ]5 S5 R' M	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX: w- R$ Q! G+ I2 Q1 b
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE A& p2 y9 `( Z	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX" P8 R% O8 I+ s& S
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE ) M, Y* q ]0 u& }7 @	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser * W% \/ {% W: m8 P( ~$ ^ ~
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE + \|! S6 X: m: {3 ]	• 1993 Toyota T-100 $ w& G c7 q8 k
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE4 @$ ~8 N" f( {	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE 3 f( a% @% T/ f4 x* I4 n8 Y
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited , A( @) ]/ m. k, K	• 1993 Toyota Pickup ; r; i- P( @" i9 K" [* m0 ?2 I
• 2004 Toyota Prius ! @. Q/ c3 N: O' P	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE- H' L: {6 ?4 M
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 0 R6 ?1 O+ S! i$ d# G	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE * @+ E- m5 C! B& G2 k+ n9 {
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 5 g& S1 G7 E! D7 Q( o	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5. {5 b1 A( Y6 ^& n: @" s
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE & h/ L+ o: m8 y8 o+ y- w	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5' o, x, D6 ]5 h
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 2 R9 d' Z: X, d3 ~	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 0 {: C7 j4 o; D. A
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited % ?3 Y8 g% o9 H! A	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 8 s0 A9 W4 u \|0 D" g
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE. [ z4 ]) _$ a( M# G	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX8 U/ S$ E9 {% i4 {5 m
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE % q1 b9 n* V8 w/ U	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE! ^0 r% V- [' L; p
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE$ j: d" j+ t+ ~( t, ]" F; ~9 ]' e	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac0 I3 f6 R" L6 o5 M$ z8 f) _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 8 O- k p7 m, ~. R0 ~0 I	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton # J' K& o- E3 O- \|6 w% D1 e
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 9 J r! i- ^! B' X$ U	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ( T6 N7 y/ v9 A9 C+ G
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner4 S7 {& Z* T' J3 w	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 9 O& Y& g7 j5 q1 }3 Y
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S * _, \& D7 s. Q) p! u	• 1992 Toyota MR2 & }) I+ i2 \|8 R. f: D/ i
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner) n& s: p1 s6 T. a: v) s9 U	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 7 e: G6 R1 u& W0 E& D
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 e3 {7 U/ z* a0 U( _, ^	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 0 C( B& `; `4 O8 Y' w
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS - \|( f; Y/ y3 r( f	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac- w7 Z$ Y" P5 N. ~. F" p2 i
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 6 y! Y& x/ u6 N8 q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5. W0 C0 {. n7 Q9 c7 h( @) \
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S & M# F/ c' O0 D! F3 g2 S* f	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX2 ]- m- b9 R% G/ u7 E
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited+ ^% }) O7 d6 B0 P6 g9 U# z	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5+ H6 {2 C' N8 W* r
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ; x4 M0 q( \; e( x5 g0 q! [	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser + I0 _+ Q+ V" F1 O
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 B- i: z D+ h, R; S/ J	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof m5 \" D+ q0 `! C2 K
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited& Z! G: L! O( W3 K2 M	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE6 d1 I8 R R- Y: p; T5 n
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE. `5 C! ?+ m& `$ L1 E4 X) h9 {	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5" Q# L7 q& U. y: n [) z& P# j
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT ' e1 E4 \|3 l( v. a	• 1991 Toyota Camry ' s: m5 o8 }9 J' V$ q9 O
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE% q' [& n( p% [0 I9 x2 a	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser : V; Z; `8 j5 e
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ; \. W9 y3 [. C f. s	• 1991 Toyota Pickup # V3 z6 S6 ?" Y" C
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma X! D( D2 G' M# Z# {+ O6 [	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX; L- C% w# b' {
• 2003 Toyota Tundra . z& y+ j% \|5 ?) Z	• 1991 Toyota MR2 4 R% ?( \- a! L2 W o
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE % R: U: {9 b0 R	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR52 x) m H- ]$ U0 l. q% ^
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited9 B+ o* \|. Y5 G6 M% n! T2 o* G2 Y	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ! p1 k7 s- a* ~
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 8 h0 o4 C' O9 h6 E	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac( {$ ^+ T9 k! {; g7 Q8 T
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR50 o% H: ~7 [! ` `	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 5 \2 o6 e" z" s$ E( _
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE5 y5 {5 o5 a5 p. V% u9 [$ A$ M	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 3 t: Z; P+ X5 ?5 \1 G# I+ C
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE 3 g2 f# y1 [' v; l$ } B	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX5 O9 a9 i6 z4 u' y
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited " Q$ N! F% A2 R1 { d% z	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE" P& W/ r& ` a3 K
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 4 U$ X. L8 ~* i; z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 1 C# H+ v; _8 P& n: Q% O. o
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited* t" \( y6 Q' b$ C! d) ~+ u	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 8 s8 h4 Q3 V% ?& X
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 5 a4 f2 h4 Z2 h0 A8 o2 Z	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE * O; s: @9 y3 s3 k, x! I8 Z
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE + p" z2 @" D3 ]* m1 [' W	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5# n- R& ^4 S3 S* u) _! ~/ F4 B
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 9 \, M7 _9 I6 V I	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ % q5 W8 V I' B9 @! e* Y( d7 F
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE E5 w5 U; Y# r5 E' f	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT : x/ G/ U( L% a& \|
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT - A1 r/ }4 b* z9 [: D: Q	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 4 A. u) d# ^. A3 u/ g5 Q
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner / d! W% r! j3 ]8 d	• 1990 Toyota Camry & Y: U/ w" ^# @# R/ c, P1 m8 m
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S 4 K! m/ U- b4 Y9 N& V, }6 E1 j" b	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 9 ?5 e. v! n& J; B+ T
• 2002 Toyota Highlander & C, f2 S& [' e	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX - t0 q( a' H' ^) J. d7 t& ~2 i: [; Y+ A
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / Q) \( V* C, n. ]- V1 {+ C$ V4 m	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX9 o+ s& {" q. n5 H' [+ L! W
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 " A* x7 d) i; T, e, a7 [	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : g% ~; ~! J( e* ]
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 @5 d5 t' H" q	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 9 X) ~" j& B; _/ i
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE- I1 x3 C" @" [* H' d	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ( h# J8 y; K0 p' ~4 F, H
• 2002 Toyota Prius 0 M% O1 p: V7 d; c4 x$ I	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton6 B U8 u2 W8 ]$ J3 S, B1 m' K
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 1 G3 K( y9 W! A0 M& q7 n( h2 J1 z	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX; W/ B! y0 N1 z% D7 s/ y1 t" \- J
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 6 \! Z6 [% y% j8 `! @: m3 d	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 2 h; A- X; l. A' @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE , }. ^$ _% ^, a# B- I) K	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac( u% r% `; `* @. z& ?% r
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 0 E; @/ f+ B9 j# p W {	• 1990 Toyota Tercel \|$ f" m }0 `0 N; B% T0 y
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 2 d# G" K0 K3 N" N/ I	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac/ v1 [5 y" @" ] o" K- G
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE, I5 A: v- a" }' i	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac " R2 a2 i( P! h# K
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 2 ?0 ^# \& z9 ~	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger # W$ `+ L( j, Q7 ?/ Q
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 6 u+ E4 A: ]+ d1 l. e6 X0 \|: y q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base " l/ q6 \0 r0 p3 R, l) K
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited1 j, p9 \|8 w/ C& ]7 j y	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 4 J* F6 p" S: N. e; ?& _8 w
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT : T' T; K$ W7 s0 Q/ ]	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser $ L4 u+ J% B# ?; G/ _( f2 A; n B, z; \|
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 8 S' H4 r7 y3 F0 E7 [; N4 ?- ^# K	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE( `- {; S1 Y$ f- z$ D0 \|6 c
• 2001 Toyota Prius 0 M; x. p: }" e' ^0 \|* A	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX : ?, h; w" `' d* D
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 7 e" q8 E: k' r- L	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton/ m- M; ^6 _8 \|( X1 W) h
• 2001 Toyota Tundra . f1 G3 \/ X, i( J, L4 O	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger" N# q$ T. M/ T
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE & X. U% e. N# T	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX + Y) S" _6 z. g/ V& O, s6 o3 @
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited( ?$ g1 N7 @) V" h) C	• 1989 Toyota Camry ! H) d0 M& ^; c9 ~0 \|% G7 ]
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ \* M# }5 D) @6 L3 S3 l	• 1989 Toyota Tercel $ {/ B0 ^$ d! ~; I
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE ' b U6 R) b) d6 _	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX3 w1 ]3 A( O3 R8 ?. j: Q
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE) S4 Q8 g/ N' S8 F, ]; e9 j, t. a2 y	• 1989 Toyota Pickup & ?7 s. d1 P5 ~- O
• 2001 Toyota ECHO + o- ?& i0 ^$ x* b	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ C' {3 j* X, x% ?1 x: b
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 5 {) W8 P7 s5 w U8 m4 g2 T. ^	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger/ V+ E1 ]+ d: t0 {4 d- ^
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE ) Q' `7 y G! V* n	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ. i7 F! _4 I; [0 L/ \
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 d$ Q* e+ J7 k+ a3 C q	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 3 v7 S7 {6 J, N+ E5 }
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner # s/ g/ ?6 N% e4 V; S% Y	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX* R" y* o' f1 e) I% ]# _
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS ( E0 j8 p2 u9 \|$ F	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 4 w, j B W9 m, J+ n' i9 e; x
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S # S+ N% P# a8 b' d	• 1988 Toyota Camry ; `2 s) H# \|# ^) T5 m; ~
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ; f2 S: L. s. e% \|. h) w( D9 s	• 1988 Toyota Pickup - F: K$ Y6 H# C) N+ T' A$ Q( \|
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR56 I; z/ F$ m: b+ I9 G- M- ]8 V	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 6 O; L, \% X3 z! E" a0 g a9 \! Z+ v
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 2 i7 g. n. Y# y' y! O	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX $ \! s3 l- X, R2 Y
• 2001 Toyota Highlander & e9 Q ?( U/ S4 _7 j5 \$ O	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- ^$ D! B) U2 ]+ r
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited / ^" L& i, {# W0 ^/ l; T. O	• 1988 Toyota Van DX2 p/ w4 n1 j& g( Q: ?2 l5 v
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ) E0 a* t# i+ {9 ?. z, A& C* ~7 C, ~	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 8 ~; g8 p$ g7 f: v2 e1 n
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 5 p8 d5 q( F D# P( b9 X	• 1988 Toyota Tercel - ?1 ~; c0 A" t9 i5 g8 j
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT. F$ b: q5 r8 a% t& Z# h9 U- a	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE 3 d2 _) E% X' U7 e W1 K: v6 X
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE. @7 e9 T% \9 ]: R" T& O	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window " }' m0 E3 k+ B0 ?$ h
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 & b! b+ Z* m5 h3 I	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton* z6 R$ v8 L J9 B5 {( S: B3 \|8 M
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& Y7 q6 G5 D: d( c# H	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser - X' r+ G2 b! O
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR58 w+ }- P0 V: n	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 2 k/ p3 M, y n( t; A3 I8 z
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited % ~7 k0 ~4 T2 c& Y. U	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger + S& Z. } F" I$ B& q
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 2 w. \|7 n2 d6 l9 Q1 o	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B 4 S* R: q9 x; Z1 Q6 M9 B1 N8 C- s$ p
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS7 o$ s! O7 U% L1 l8 B% z3 d4 \|, k. \|* O	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac, M% d% G: c( A8 K3 k
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE7 Q' U! X' E8 T+ C1 H! m3 y' _	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger + Q1 l1 f9 N2 N9 g; f1 x( O1 H
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 8 X) O4 x0 j6 u6 d	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 3 ^& R' _/ L$ D
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited + [8 M) h( X3 o	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX* p0 J3 A# o, G9 M4 ^6 W
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 7 {* i; W8 ^# v+ _# X	• 1988 Toyota Van LE' q ^6 \' G( _/ T) G9 f0 p6 _
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS + ?% B0 g% _$ K0 [	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ' L+ z8 {* z" T1 F4 q7 \
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 1 \3 G1 \# ? k z0 G/ O! U	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 ) _: J6 n) y' K! T2 _( O- ?4 t
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited i8 u! j. l* s4 V: v( x	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE % i1 U' R3 \|6 }
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner ! J' U$ Z- t$ u1 r) [0 H, E+ i	• 1987 Toyota Van DX " ^0 a2 ?! e+ a. v {4 q
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 0 M5 b" \1 z9 X# g: \|( m' M	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window1 a% \7 t" d( X' W' t
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5+ A; d9 V4 h( q/ c! y	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton6 X1 E: C( K$ {3 L
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE% L( u, J! r- B. U" l4 c	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR54 \|7 F; o/ x) ?5 {* ]* S
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 5 O. O' \|; y) t2 w2 @	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX 1 Y. N# C$ j; ]6 c' ]0 Z
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 0 Z' b% \|( \|- o' j) q	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 9 e$ d; p; o" y) M$ T2 x
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 7 y! u4 F1 ]' P: V& p# a	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX - g# q7 ~3 U/ n, `
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1987 Toyota Van LE4 h8 w2 t1 D( s# z5 v0 }& t! j
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE6 i; g: f% D" N% \9 S8 q) Z	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel " C) z3 h- _/ Y$ [6 R8 q
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE; e! x+ R; ^4 [	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX ! o7 B2 e+ y$ {3 a; f
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma $ X5 k; i" \- {4 D% I( e1 x6 ?	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 6 _& a/ I& P- c9 ?
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS& _9 `- w9 B- X7 v	• 1986 Toyota Van LE1 m/ C' J) Y9 ^8 a$ u' L
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE% H# S5 ]" C4 ? n" f( h, i	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 z5 r, q! {8 \|, C# D
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner n) I# ]. V1 y K2 q# S0 l, F	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel. r; e& S: c* W7 W2 z0 s& m
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 $ j' n' Z) M2 f0 q. \|	• 1986 Toyota Van DX * v; Z9 x/ k9 k- m
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited - k7 H4 V9 K, b# Z4 b q$ i2 c% b	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window ; y" a5 v% ]+ `8 d* E
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE, z$ C {( c" B9 }1 n' [8 `	• 1985 Toyota Van + d0 z( R. K" Z9 z1 R* E
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE $ q* ^3 J! O/ `+ p/ {" q	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 6 W$ T, c; Z% P, O6 h
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL 5 D4 H1 J; G! C& M: O+ ?, U	• 1985 Toyota Van DX6 Q' F2 E. R" W9 Z' ]
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE% f* _! P7 R" [# H	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 _- h& V8 Q/ b; P) I9 H' n4 r
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited& e, t. s' c- x: A	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ! a/ i4 ?2 A" P, F; @' m9 r2 g
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE, }$ V+ L6 G7 i3 W9 B8 W6 }	• 1984 Toyota Supra * E2 M3 j1 h, q8 n7 d
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE! K' M* l. J( d	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX " n W" V5 q) v3 q% y
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE X0 ?3 a, T! T7 g	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser \|( F( p9 N: f' \|
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited: K8 f& e6 \|7 H5 j	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 2 G6 P$ u7 e" O" z7 e% v6 A
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 p8 _1 {7 I. Z* _) R5 \	• 1984 Toyota Van 2 t! q" v: q* O2 _, T! m7 E+ O
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE - P; F8 q, [( F4 d	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE! {( u8 u" C" v/ H5 M. g8 B
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner + u! A, s" ~4 P; U6 f' C" s* J# A3 M	• 1984 Toyota Van LE3 C, H7 O$ O2 m1 n+ O. h
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 6 j* \|+ q. j. A4 t% `) n	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE , Y6 A Y/ r# \|7 S; z( K A
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 0 B0 A/ X( g+ V @5 ?( X	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 / P# t. ]5 y1 g' ^ G/ b5 L2 }
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5: E1 H. p0 I/ W9 s+ K	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX - J" d5 e1 b" m; S* f. h
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 6 k0 k/ J) V7 f5 M1 _) z7 B	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 4 T# H& ^0 T+ U5 l2 P
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE , s; X0 n1 m+ \4 r M/ [- O4 J	• 1983 Toyota Supra 2 }$ [3 O' ]: I* o0 N
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 9 d0 h4 Z' N2 u! ]: d	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser $ v6 I. A' ?! \|1 t
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 1 ^# Z( ]& ?: F) d	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX / r8 n" c, t7 N# j! h' O/ b7 y! O
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE1 h' c$ u* G: D	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 8 R* Y X% J; j% @2 x; W
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" c- i5 [( [/ Y: ~5 T/ k) M1 m	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT , \|% ]& K: W- p# B! ]. z
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ( o- S1 U! ~; o	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 K; \|: Z5 z2 d* ]2 z* V
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited ) G9 f4 ~' i/ w5 F1 H, P& u4 A: Q	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 7 [, o: ^6 S6 n l8 W, ]5 b `
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE & v( [! q& R4 s; o5 z- O' `	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 8 c- ^, d) F3 K& t* U
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 % `8 _: x& b& A	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST $ j" m0 f* B; X8 ]: Y
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5' X/ o' ~; ^7 c% Z- W	• 1982 Toyota Tercel {4 m8 O" o8 r2 _4 E( E I. e
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX C3 s; H, {8 V( Q8 r* P	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5- W4 D( u3 k& ^! x! E5 a
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma . T. F5 f$ J3 h- p7 b	• 1981 Toyota Tercel ; V) ~, d- G8 t% x* I% Z) k1 z
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS . X8 A& d- J4 h3 s. o/ k! o' h	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5! ~, X6 i0 I2 o, y- J2 C$ J; v2 j
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX4 I! J# i8 \|: V- j) [3 a	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 E4 P" ~( ?) l- M3 s* N& @) p
• 1997 Toyota T-100 7 w3 D) _9 R# O" M2 L	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX 6 _3 i! n' H' y* i& i
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited \) l2 L; V8 @$ Z O	• 1981 Toyota Cressida : V8 g' I( ]5 H
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE ; ^. a1 f: T$ b. v	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT: K) ?" R ^+ K+ c6 a5 M/ n
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 F; L" y h. B	• 1980 Toyota Corolla ! m4 n. o8 D( l5 ?1 M2 e
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 1 r/ }5 r) h8 d	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser " l3 W' u! A0 N5 J
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR57 M+ ^9 J* x& V/ q# }, ^	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe0 S3 V, F9 \|+ x; ] e2 u
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL + \( h) }- F" \5 G	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX) s2 s6 H0 K- v, l
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE ! v$ [; {! m! K- F	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST1 \|! T9 I& \|0 K6 u
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner . J. ] c/ m# A3 _6 p	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury( h7 o, [, Z \. D
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE ; Q* n! P# C5 e6 @0 V	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 3 h, @' Z% ], N4 B! x8 Z- F
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE( Y) S1 M. U7 E b: v8 L: y. b	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 : c4 e1 U" l/ r& \|8 u; i2 D
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX - X/ `9 O& _5 k- S% D: Y* q1 o	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe! W1 o* G4 M4 b! i
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE. Z( {- d" [* n	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR57 S) {, Z0 E" N5 X$ Y
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : `* d4 ~8 r7 ]; P" X2 @- m5 m( ~

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ( S3 d* b Y0 Q; z2 t# b
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：, H7 n6 I3 E3 N; X, o
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE/ K: X$ N0 T: U& w/ ]& r9 O
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE3 b2 k: M( i& |; U# }
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 # e1 Y" Z6 U, b! @% I$ D
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 , C+ E% X( o/ Y: y* i, v6 Q

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1 J7 o% y3 i6 \4 N/ x4 N9 `佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
4 Y9 C: l4 a+ R, _: V
" ]/ e) t# g) `* {! t; n! K) w由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
' c* U$ l6 V5 t9 d8 l9 b
2 J, S9 R; Z. Q: e1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
9 t* v5 k& T" q% L- t: S4 l/ S2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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