說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
* j( n" n* F; n- ]$ ^$ u学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 % g- ]/ D0 H$ e# |' B: `; X8 k+ _
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 4 m. u# ^+ Z% a2 r$ K/ D+ w( ]
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 3 r9 J3 \7 }6 l- E* i: |

! h* h% V$ Z5 Q( r& K6 i7 B! o" v看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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& S% J" l+ e, S$ w4 s不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE 8 p% X. }6 b" g/ [; {# w/ n	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE , e5 v _; C$ m2 L: D; l% E1 [
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport 2 W. m4 e. L4 I1 w5 J	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE ; Q0 L4 s4 H9 K1 Z4 }, J# c
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE ! A- v+ c! u- A" ?& x5 Z3 f% @	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX0 G, e4 S" H, h& R( c2 k' H+ K+ n& E. ?
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5* A+ b& n: @2 C- f* i	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 1 P) O7 o& @4 A* W
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE . }* ? o. j: i2 q4 P+ N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE* {! p! ]4 V9 q f
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 7 r* q2 A5 ]/ P5 ]	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX ) n" z6 C& o& }3 {8 g5 u
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid: o, E) f) b _2 \|. o$ ^$ B+ D	• 1996 Toyota Corolla - F* j+ \+ U* o
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited , Q; l9 j7 p8 o) P$ \7 H/ I: ]1 \|+ \8 l	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 & \5 u4 G( u0 e% g# o
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE - F- @# n0 S" }# `" L, i# ?	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE& q: ]+ u7 ]! t$ q$ n$ G9 s
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE $ {6 z% c* a0 m' S" U6 o	• 1996 Toyota T-100 o# `9 w5 x, k' r. {
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE / A/ C! H5 B+ V0 k" n3 w. ]	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST # \ P; \|6 q8 a, t& D
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited$ I# A! u/ u6 L7 v- d	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited ( l* c. Q; [$ [- S) K
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner( f" a+ l$ Z, {	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ( k/ g) N- [9 ^8 H
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE! s. T' u: V: j2 s! s& \	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5% C; r3 b/ z) a
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE ' x9 R& w9 c s/ \2 ^* H	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 8 W* y' g( o2 e: S; A8 _2 C% x& @
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 % r$ S: V6 y4 d+ b	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX3 W) Z& ^: {9 j5 H* o* b; o
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 5 N, m8 O' H' d! _: H0 J1 V	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT + D" G$ V' Y: h8 y! @7 }# O) _
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS " H2 P$ M ^. {1 L% ~* X& J1 @6 i9 P	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma " Y" E# S q8 [$ }
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL % {$ Y+ h1 A9 o' m) O$ B( [4 e. H	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner . L0 d8 t3 q9 B
• 2006 Toyota Prius 4 B! Q* H# z4 Y+ I: F/ k9 M# \|$ [, }	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX# q) X( Z8 Y5 X, j+ w* D
• 2006 Toyota Camry / x4 {1 \|' V* ]1 m2 A Q	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 5 I6 U. L4 q @$ \
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring + I, M; D5 \|/ m. h( ~1 X" @	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE W% f$ i W X" q- Q) P" P/ o+ M
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma $ g9 @7 d' N- L) D, l	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE8 Q" v$ K8 I w: z1 R
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE$ Y4 k2 q+ T- s	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton6 r7 i ^2 W# W
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited & I- ^8 p* N8 l2 @0 U	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR55 t& N$ P- e. _ B, r5 a/ \|4 Q6 g
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 6 W- P1 ~5 o) B/ q	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 , ]) i5 ?& V' p3 Z0 T
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ j/ k7 r5 t3 P! Y0 @	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX! ^4 N3 ]$ W9 L% _* D/ }# g9 p" p7 U
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 6 T- r5 w" v) `7 m3 o: J- {	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX $ B& y7 I3 s+ H$ v
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 w7 U* l2 T8 Q8 X	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 F2 e* l6 `3 y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE3 P3 l- \) h% R' [" g( `	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 0 C2 Q2 J" G2 V+ r
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 _' P& N/ V9 U: u! j ^0 f1 R' {2 d	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 9 U3 M7 B2 n8 Y
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 3 t/ D' \|0 e: B$ n3 Y& ?	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX & Y4 t- p% o4 m/ n: ]/ ~$ X
• 2005 Toyota Tundra - p! `* a, U( g6 W% t# [# ^( W	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE $ G) o3 `" \|. c
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 0 Q" [7 \6 R' d1 y% B9 u( a	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX' ~5 j5 A/ s" e( D. F9 x7 u* q
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 ~. b* u: c2 ]	• 1995 Toyota T-100 9 V& K: i% J; o0 x5 S1 \% Z
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited % \|0 Y( [9 \|% G1 G* g	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma & {. @, T' _4 O2 u
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL " i! A1 F2 L, ?5 i2 t( v/ [	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE! f/ H* u% ~- b3 `1 n+ I- l
• 2005 Toyota Camry 6 {2 h. ?( R3 [' E	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR51 U) C( y; I, G( g8 n8 L0 w
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring G( j, U# m2 k	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX- v# A% T- U# c+ ^; a/ j
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 2 ?, e- t4 [2 o: T2 X% ^	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX1 }/ H# H. r' J o( t( \|; p5 h
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE& m) ]+ E) s7 n: b* s	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX+ K9 D+ u2 d8 u) w! b
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited+ w/ P% G; Q& ~$ P# {9 m9 x; D* }7 N	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 * H, z: y8 Y9 _- C$ G
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma # K4 r- ~+ r @) A% U' g	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 7 S0 d/ i; Q, y* O, F( u: T
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S $ \|" p( D1 x1 A" i	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE * c8 ?: i) c7 x( ]
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE 8 }# Y; n: u: [3 [8 c% `	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 1 r- F0 Q( y; {5 h+ ?
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited # y2 I) s, ~% j$ O" F" Q	• 1994 Toyota T-100 7 \|- W8 i" Z, T( }# q, U( {* S
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 c" b" t" h6 a1 i8 `( t	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5! V. @2 `$ j; P# w- z
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE' v2 l* Z* H! @" ]1 E! S4 B% D	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE ) r' z& ]$ _% k* \|7 S! m
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 . l2 n& H: M, u3 O' f2 V	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX 3 C% f# \|/ a9 M* `1 `7 h( c/ V- f
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS5 z4 }* m$ z, q; P	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR56 A" M" t( j0 J( i3 ?5 h
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE & M/ N X( X& [4 {+ o	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE& u" v2 ~1 \|7 c% y. w
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE; n, N9 i1 C* ~" U( D" X	• 1994 Toyota Corolla $ I- a# B& Q/ b# V3 X% F
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited: u7 {7 i. ~' D5 N' {: M9 ]	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 0 K5 n. E0 X6 [$ \|) F* k
• 2005 Toyota Highlander [: s7 g5 z ~# c	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE. j& q* [1 `6 j1 Y/ K8 C
• 2005 Toyota Prius + G8 n' r) y/ o	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 4 x# T, H% T# f& n
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE ' \% x% g7 a+ \|) r- _' O	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton 9 O E# d- h& B/ V& I. J
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE ; Y! c+ V. j8 x! P2 ]	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; g& i! r2 P; @" C- G
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited " f8 _7 u7 T& R( ^% f4 W	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX " \|6 e8 D9 M6 b( s
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 % r s' F% H: X% Y/ ~	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX 4 w( G2 o! o% X: B/ H- r" a* o
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE # I) {2 n6 i7 Q2 a. o) n	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX% m6 S" d5 X. \|1 v4 C9 l. I% u; w
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE ! \6 T/ X: ]' ]3 G' s. m	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser , U1 F& t% t2 F) b8 H2 X% ~! K
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE; h' D r% v- m$ N	• 1993 Toyota T-100 5 I0 U0 x Z/ M
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 9 u! a( v. c7 s/ r# w# M/ E9 }	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE # \|% i. m( L2 c8 P0 C! Y
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited $ Y& ^/ j3 U: o	• 1993 Toyota Pickup " F% u8 z8 D/ b; j0 P' c
• 2004 Toyota Prius 6 ^$ \# [1 s Y	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE \' J' x% i# Q* x/ p
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 7 {: p0 x+ W, Y. w/ l B	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE7 f7 L/ r! ?3 u, K" ?: U+ C
• 2004 Toyota Tundra + f t0 v2 i! a* H4 L4 C	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5& V, V1 Q7 _% H$ E
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE! N: ?! V5 c: W7 R	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 , j1 [" P9 D/ y. p0 l
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited , E K) t& g8 b$ k! B, A	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE2 Y2 \|/ ^1 I) d% e. S' f, `2 L
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited9 Q ]0 }$ n( S# h" a; v. p	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE : P2 H/ y& M" v; ^) p
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE l' S# R$ _ Y6 K7 M	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 6 }; N7 ?4 K8 H$ e. F6 ]
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE/ w- i9 \& v; W" b	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE9 _& {- ]4 [# U. h$ u. C7 E
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE% N7 v- ?- a* {: n& s2 ~) J	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac - B. [9 {+ z+ v9 e \|/ p
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 4 I# `: `+ k8 P" F% ?( q. t5 q2 J	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, ^( c+ b# H2 ~! y# G5 r" A
• 2004 Toyota Highlander " q# W* C- C4 g2 h6 p	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 2 y& ^; E+ r- q1 K
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner & r' y$ M+ H3 p( P0 V& H/ e	• 1992 Toyota Corolla ; c& G j* u7 g5 ^$ p4 p# I
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S5 z; ]8 V* y) ]! e3 d4 x( g	• 1992 Toyota MR2 p1 }; S( \) F/ Z9 P
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 z+ x. Q: y& Y0 {; y" [' ^1 l' ?	• 1992 Toyota Pickup % ^9 m3 \|! d1 V# \|3 u
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 & e0 f8 w. g2 Z# {9 F- X	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX. h6 o" f: P7 c* ?" M
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS : X, G+ p J7 M6 n	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac3 N# I% x6 e- U; C' e5 a$ M
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner0 M& g4 C0 r5 H' x. R- ^- Q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ f# Y' a5 ?& u6 L F
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S $ \) D/ T1 c1 z& E5 j% U# o	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX ; }7 T/ ]2 O2 e2 l/ M) w) k! {
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited1 t) T2 C& l$ R) F9 T( M	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR56 A6 l8 ~! N' Q. \|5 L9 I' k
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. M: V) N0 d- [ [. v5 H	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser ( r, U7 f3 U$ r" s
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5. \|" W* Q% q/ X/ l, }7 \	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof1 \5 Q7 x1 c/ I7 \|% t
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited8 o1 r3 \. {/ W$ V0 H* @! t	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE5 \( C( X# F6 n. \|$ T# E- o3 B/ O- E
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE # A) \|* I: _7 o$ \	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR54 g4 m9 B: \|* u" E& i4 }5 w$ A
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT: p' r. s! C. t/ Y1 A: Y	• 1991 Toyota Camry 8 E2 A" @5 V3 K: K& ?. n8 Y
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE, o3 G2 S. l2 j) `) [	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser # R. W9 s" v w1 z
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 9 V, B# y5 A6 J9 t; h4 T" l/ E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 7 m. I( e% ?" p5 i% {
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ' a% ~+ ^4 L; i	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 3 i3 n* y/ T- \|, _# ~) m
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 5 A4 z+ d1 D' D5 t	• 1991 Toyota MR2 1 b, D8 }% j; R1 u; U% z
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE $ u6 E* U9 [! T' Y6 `0 E# S) R	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 1 e0 q7 w0 F$ N' m
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited @) J! V" \|5 `; F! L	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX% q) z1 I8 R& j4 U- Y
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 1 t3 t+ i. \& ^, q+ e	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac . J+ p5 U. K3 s0 p+ X$ b' Q: ]
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 v3 O# I* y" y# M1 q2 h	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac* F3 B. q) C9 D0 L! `1 Y$ J
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE % v- R1 Z3 q; P" G# c2 `* a	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof1 F$ y I2 M! R$ Y' q
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE ; }! n3 E8 i+ s& [. x# j	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 4 h7 n$ b a3 D6 b
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited ! h* b8 N* b( z4 o	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE / c0 B( e, D# k1 O6 y) _6 j' i
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited2 @8 s0 [ L! H- ~4 k' D& {: l, p	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton& a+ T% f3 \# {1 m1 N x& p$ o
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 h1 q0 K7 J! r0 Q; D	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 7 [) F9 M& m( _8 k& t/ J. @$ h
• 2002 Toyota ECHO % r- n. R% k( }9 H$ K8 a* I6 n5 F	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ( O: E' S, d$ f) e! q3 p- l
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE+ {/ H. E0 {/ b; u& o: E. E	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR54 `! R' K& D0 K, R* p
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited , s9 Z# ]* r3 ~3 ` [& F1 i$ m	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ + E @. V1 p0 u: e7 p4 A Y
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 4 ]! z* R" L- e7 [8 t- d5 M0 M+ w# h	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 0 z2 w6 \|* E1 \|; P; s" L2 p
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT0 H$ n Q2 }' N4 y# \! E	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base3 G! @9 c* E2 U7 V, y4 T' z$ @
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner& K$ P: z# ?2 Y: n: k	• 1990 Toyota Camry 6 K& d, M% g1 O/ ?( i
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S ) Q6 B6 w- t2 P# j+ y# Y* I2 w/ U	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 7 T% g" q' m0 @( i
• 2002 Toyota Highlander ; W* W; m: o( }$ \|' v9 Q	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX 0 M: _/ t3 A0 {; G
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner - s, x& s. R* E3 u1 _	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX+ O N" X$ n$ U' ]1 f: g' M
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 4 ?& h3 a& H4 Z	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5! B8 d6 i2 c( Z! B& P7 J4 i G p- _
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2 f \' c3 c- c4 r f5 @	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS7 l$ A4 y& ?% ~ c
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 5 }& X O2 g( C6 b2 U& \|' U4 `	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 ^$ o" T s4 {/ ^4 u+ E& z* ^
• 2002 Toyota Prius 9 K0 i ~" ^% J- _, j9 }: {) q	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton7 Q: b8 Z: @! H& }* \* }: O
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5* b( [- V- O1 p9 P) b	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX% M4 [7 ?6 p; ~7 Z) Y) U+ {- g
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS / j; z! _' v' t4 i( o	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 4 n. j- d! j4 [3 Z: [) [
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE9 p6 T& ]: z: J6 e	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac + ^: d {: p/ l2 U! v
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma - G( t6 \|% V) ]0 u	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 7 g( ]: h( ]% ^% O q3 [
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 7 ]( g. L6 D2 C B1 l2 b	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac# ?$ c& E. b( d+ A8 i5 d: G7 J
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE $ E! g0 \ z& v( ]$ N* [ Z8 j	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac3 I4 p; D8 _0 p4 j5 k6 b( b" ]
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE% i8 q7 C7 @* ]' E" b. ^7 A7 r	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger , u3 _- f9 w6 u2 N3 }7 O: g1 R
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 6 P! P; O5 ~8 g' D	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base/ ?& w; P o: f1 y# Y' l
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited6 S' \|# T* j3 ^: L2 o	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % n- ^ T+ D' }7 w
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT" I0 z9 z6 E$ R1 N$ i, F+ i4 r	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser + g( C h e6 H9 j
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE4 c0 _9 E& P" u& N j" s	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE3 ^/ Y G' X8 _. `( l$ M
• 2001 Toyota Prius ( ~% u2 C; ? ~1 G* A; a	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX$ ^% n t/ N* S# S9 o# E) l" \|; a" V
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma , X# v3 X7 I$ r7 e	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton' u+ f& M% u( g! ^* a( r
• 2001 Toyota Tundra " f) ]- s$ W) j3 f6 _5 k" w! C& y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger + ]& J% t. q' W, z; ?
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 9 H; ]. x* c- @ v	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX( z, r- A8 t& o: G% o4 O1 k. z# ?1 _
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 ]8 u3 p8 G8 @' i& a5 X	• 1989 Toyota Camry % I& ?, v+ g3 e4 b" i9 L
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5' i) n. B2 B }# [. E I	• 1989 Toyota Tercel * ]. O* ~2 @6 i2 D
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 3 Z+ o. A2 A* y0 H0 ]5 n	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX8 G: H- j" U+ b) `' s/ A9 U
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 5 d8 p3 o6 J1 }	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 9 C4 R# c: m$ a) e$ \% N
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 2 c; t4 z8 q' y7 E* t$ y L* [	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 2 I! o5 ]; k, ?+ s3 E& G0 f* C
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 4 Z8 r, Y' z( _! E- e. \|	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger6 q7 h9 E+ K4 n* G& G# Z1 o
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE # D6 n7 K+ a5 u' @. `% I9 J: a	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ 7 M8 z& Q S) c b& d' p
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 H; s6 y2 D% T/ T+ t, \|( f	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel0 ~0 i6 ]* S! k3 S2 _( k
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner' y: `) l' s0 e9 Z( N# W% x; K6 \|	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX & O1 l' u8 X, P$ M: g( M
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 9 W j# \|" c; [' _! P: ]9 }3 \	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ $ t4 k, C% L. `" d$ J7 H
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S- ?" z/ I( k2 H) i1 l	• 1988 Toyota Camry $ D G# U* B6 k
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / a5 \|* Q2 E8 O7 ]$ J, F	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ' M* z4 q8 c! j8 }0 o. r
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 7 \|$ C0 \6 M" d: p- c	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger0 W6 J* w5 S. k! u
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 8 s; o$ }( w7 V7 ]	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX " F/ n, K6 g0 _$ E: g
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 5 R8 w( Y0 h9 ~' ^( x% B; {	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % e2 y5 `5 W* [5 l& Z
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited & [5 ~7 ]) x- N' i2 ^( p	• 1988 Toyota Van DX' C( g/ w; q' d/ J3 M
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 3 O) [5 y* V% [/ d, B' u- J	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 5 u8 j% V1 Z: ]
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma ( {) }# L9 R5 n	• 1988 Toyota Tercel " D a0 H: d; v$ h k/ w& W+ b
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT & o6 Y0 x2 I, w+ T9 N5 D, p	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE + i$ i- L) R' Q; }6 w
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE# c2 C' B1 B0 ^4 F1 T9 v( b	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window+ [0 ~2 v* s/ l. Y, I8 e
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 & w; z, `* W" t% O	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton A/ T$ _' }/ D4 \|; M8 ]
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + F$ C- Q6 O" j/ _; z	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser & w4 P5 v0 M3 E+ ]& J
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 + ]8 ~6 G4 E- h d1 ]	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR59 s- X% K4 H! t( u% c
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited" R" b9 k; U5 O! r	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger5 c; p w# P. C2 { m
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE1 N: x; g: U3 `( P$ K* i1 d" B	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B ! I8 G3 B# q9 i/ Z# V, P1 J2 S C
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS% m* \|' m$ S8 P0 m& L	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac3 O0 Y2 v3 ?0 ~, Z. \|- K( @
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 9 `* g2 q* o) X6 j	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger , N! M1 d6 S5 q1 e1 a1 w5 l- O- \|
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 6 ?. [3 `: w4 s9 I9 `, ~0 T	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 / B' Y' P) R# q6 z9 [ ]9 C
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited; j8 m" h) _5 M4 s4 {) V0 }; F	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX s& ~ Y( ^# X1 i* I
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 6 t' u7 F p/ }9 I	• 1988 Toyota Van LE : [/ V6 m; M5 ~
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS* w G% ^6 O9 i* W" d# y) }) V	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ( s# ]" e5 n# C5 a
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE7 z. c' e/ _( e6 t# Q	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 - R! j1 Y5 @* }8 p7 M3 d( P
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited- N# ? I& l, J" v1 J' z5 g5 ]2 `	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE6 ^+ R3 I* k; N: i8 z; \|. \|+ D3 i
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner & W* h7 ]' V: U$ o: v/ L9 b' R# R	• 1987 Toyota Van DX - B0 }1 R3 q% N! z: a8 V3 T7 g
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE# v% h: a1 K8 K. q' q	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window4 ^6 h, w" }: w1 W4 A8 N
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + }- w4 _. f! O @: ^2 A/ I. f* {	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton& ]( Y& z. q) E; V- ~' b- M
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE( f; ]; j) E! @$ E* l% z	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR55 S$ b7 u3 M. [6 @. I: `
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL. J3 }8 k4 e, p( x- O7 b( V	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX X" M! Y6 t& T3 s: f9 V4 ^2 @
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 6 j8 V, r3 B& u! n+ F	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ! i T4 W G+ B; d) C
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE( V8 i) b! e' T0 G. h/ r	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX % Z/ y2 [0 B6 e( k
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 N0 X/ z+ V, \% l' E8 z	• 1987 Toyota Van LE% w' D& r" `1 C- Z0 \' n
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE7 X! u3 G7 h( u& Z% W	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel ) z2 o# u4 M. p: B! J- R
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE 6 K9 i4 w9 l V: d& _& e( j	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX % j" Y' T6 O. C t' x
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 9 T' R' @$ N6 ?, t& j	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ; n7 m: B6 ?) J
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS% l$ G+ e& @) `	• 1986 Toyota Van LE , K( S; O- _& c) U- q* ]8 \|
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE U; Y( u! C% F- Z! R1 i	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser * D8 z% W" m5 W" T" q7 ?. a
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . I. Z4 I# Z% e, ^ T5 O" L	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel & a; X2 x( x+ k
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 , t1 [: V' p$ u7 o	• 1986 Toyota Van DX7 O, K8 Z. q: ~# G; s+ F
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited5 j+ B' D' {, q	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window3 \4 y, I3 X x
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE8 D4 R% ?6 ]* r; l; V+ ^0 G3 G6 l	• 1985 Toyota Van , U! e/ F% G8 k8 t
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE# C: @% L9 s7 Z$ m v U- Z	• 1985 Toyota Van LE; T8 H% D# q; E% k/ V% j- O9 d
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL1 c" z( Z$ M1 g- c8 ]	• 1985 Toyota Van DX3 B; A- c" V& h) y$ p! c4 M
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE$ e; h, _( M5 ^$ G5 t+ E	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser ) j5 d Z6 y# ^5 L8 ?
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited0 B/ z( D6 Q- s0 N2 d* W	• 1984 Toyota Van DX9 h s _( k/ X, w0 G8 O9 T( m
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE3 n' W! h; ~! m6 _' H4 j	• 1984 Toyota Supra * X0 s' ` W7 G3 a, S
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE; ]1 {6 N* F3 l, ?3 N* _* A	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX ) Y$ s; ?$ d8 C D1 u
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE, h7 s! q& p+ F1 @$ N	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser $ F$ S- E Q( X, N- L0 v m
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited9 O- ?, ~7 Q- p1 c, z	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 4 P/ Z! V2 a, I7 R' ]0 s/ R
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS V; _; n" b0 k0 K u' N	• 1984 Toyota Van / t# e* O; L5 r( Z
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE4 z; a/ F E+ T) @# A0 F	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE0 q7 ~* Q0 T) ]( T3 \|2 C2 R( y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner - m+ W6 L1 b% P$ R	• 1984 Toyota Van LE 8 @2 r- m' i0 i$ f8 m' O( r3 O
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 4 g% Y$ g0 `* z6 U# ~	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE % k: r4 z( [7 s
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 3 t/ `* b+ s& G4 G4 i3 @	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 $ s4 g) N- l% s$ s7 q
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5: V" k# h8 r1 p, ?. g	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX/ _0 `. q# d7 q# v- A2 Q
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE$ T- A' \|9 A3 C. b- m1 H	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE, i0 h5 U. H0 r0 ^1 T8 Q6 S
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE$ w+ ]; N/ s) l" {4 t	• 1983 Toyota Supra 8 G6 ~- \. P; ]$ a, U
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ; [4 {+ r. _' ?2 J* ~+ e; J	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser & c' Z3 p: E- j+ F5 G' }
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL$ G. ]+ `9 ]- X: J$ `	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX $ x$ y* @6 Q: K4 ^3 p9 `
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE$ p% v5 n F& b+ }	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 9 } [3 j+ e/ }! L
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; m" P* i' D$ F" N& Z2 N	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT " M7 O( e( D3 t& u' @
• 1998 Toyota T-100 2 l) n! F: G- Z* R	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 P6 ?( W6 D5 F& C, G! M
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 7 F7 h! e- D' j$ [0 w5 }) w	• 1982 Toyota Cressida . A4 z) `; {' w. o U# l
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE : {8 z; Q, N; N7 K	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 1 F$ ?8 ~# b# N3 \|( D8 k
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 + \|9 r. F0 o" Q3 \	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST * s& b6 I! a' Q/ k5 z# W
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 . s4 b4 \0 `; a z; W( g( v `	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 1 b5 W u# [( I1 G
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX / j# c9 }1 }, p T	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR57 _7 i6 }) F" N
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma , f8 J/ e$ d; J& I	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 8 S0 P9 o9 B: Y" e& n
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS # P: p; R4 z% U	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR55 M* L' R( C0 }: v7 n
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX/ G4 n& z2 b- f( _; ?! k4 O* l	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser ( Z3 A7 [8 P4 c% M6 p! A9 w
• 1997 Toyota T-100 6 s) C7 c4 B4 u; S9 G' r3 e	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX 0 N& L6 A. [4 d: C
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited: {( t x% t9 \|9 W1 j	• 1981 Toyota Cressida # r/ a) ]4 ] ?3 u" _, O" k" q
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE' T2 J; y p; J$ ~$ w& R	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT- B A! Z1 H; i+ J
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 I! Z9 E9 `' a" Y8 a; P2 I	• 1980 Toyota Corolla * D" x$ j" g$ n8 H
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 1 P) I. l* m8 c9 j3 p( ~0 q) f	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser ' F( P8 {/ R# b. E; M9 i
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5- {) L3 `7 K! l6 _1 s% @ ?5 I" _	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe. @8 [; e5 J: K- X+ Q
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL V6 ], {5 A2 r9 L- F# c0 T) R) j	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 3 S9 t4 s* i$ \|6 B6 Y+ a
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE* X2 A* U9 }- Q, W	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST * {, ]) S0 i) z; H) r
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner p0 M$ x9 X! Y5 c0 f5 H7 J; [% w! C	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury5 U2 y, I, j" s! c
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE # Z* i! t Q4 Z( K	• 1980 Toyota Tercel ( g: F% c; k+ h( r, A
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE e D: l: S; X7 n9 P) t	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5! F% L5 ?6 @5 n' Q8 m+ `8 Q
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 5 p' t% K, e$ @) ?	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe 8 y5 m- _. [; w8 k! O5 D
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE/ B" s' _& q) k	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 & F: @. r" O4 @7 O8 f$ O
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . h' S3 M( w% M7 r

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ! R2 g4 _5 c; W
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多： W( M+ b; w" X0 K0 k5 i9 S
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
6 o* [3 t2 S+ R$ ?# @9 [; [- }' W0 a• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
" z7 I! W# ?" J/ @# i( {% W( U2 D&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
4 y" v0 N" j$ vApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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( S! X( v& l; g8 x佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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- ~4 l- v+ H- e! S2 k由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
3 y4 x- G# {2 \8 \$ S9 A! }" v
' d* i1 F! p# D, [  e% M4 Z4 N" i1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
- s4 }/ S8 v) w6 a1 \7 O- K2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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