說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
* D+ g+ _, G7 `学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ' W: X" t" B8 h( i
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 + G- Z5 S+ J( P. t& N1 m
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 + p3 k; Z- O4 G5 x
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE I& Z/ c$ n( T9 B9 x4 @( T	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE + `! S- T( i4 a, ^2 }$ {7 _$ w+ R
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport% L# ]8 {9 D: q$ a# q7 B	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE, b+ d3 `7 n: z" w9 j0 V+ {
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE8 i6 f P) j% E6 _7 A+ s) S4 H	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX' b3 @7 Z4 j8 o( j. Q$ s
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 D8 c# q+ _' ]7 `# N; `	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 S5 L B: v j+ v7 L" O
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE & P t1 f& q/ M' E) @& n. N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE * f. ~' N9 y% u
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE$ F/ H# D% f% D3 T2 ^" ~2 X	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX - T, [6 ]) A0 C& E [
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid2 R1 B2 w$ ~6 F	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 4 }% A, M \4 b+ P/ E( p1 f* S( \
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited/ e% q6 h4 X- w) M( I! f	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 - m4 }7 L6 \4 Q( `3 R4 g6 [% F/ g( I
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE( R2 a2 \|: D! p; `	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE - K! z' w! g% k; H* M/ }$ P
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE/ A- i7 f5 f0 y" P! Q: b	• 1996 Toyota T-100 - m! ]7 o' `& l3 R- x' c
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE # R9 y2 f3 e# _3 r- z. J	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST 4 Q Z& k; [, [ c6 P
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited; x% F/ {6 {1 _0 @	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 d5 [) \|7 ?9 e; y8 t9 L
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner - t, O5 r/ T! D2 \9 N7 ~	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ) U1 j: \; C" m2 O( _# l! y
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 1 I0 }6 Q7 p( Q	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 H" e0 I3 B, A
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE, u/ {/ j3 I/ z; ~	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ' V, O: O( v4 ` `- [
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 7 @5 f* I2 Z; ?+ G	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX. I! r0 u7 r4 p* i7 \
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 3 g) J! O& \|" e	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT + D! P( v! f2 K) \6 S& l
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 8 m4 X% A# N2 M( `. I& O	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma . g8 r+ k C9 t7 @3 N6 u( A
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 2 G% b, j; P5 i% i	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner , }% k# ^- W9 k$ j8 l) ^
• 2006 Toyota Prius 4 a* x# B& V! V" o" W	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX& L$ ` X; H+ Y2 N
• 2006 Toyota Camry & _ W/ w, r V7 `	• 1995 Toyota Pickup R8 B/ I8 z6 A% k1 C4 U8 x
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring ; K, b- o8 n- L& B5 N5 [	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE9 `) T8 ?6 C s; U2 M J
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 9 h' Y% g7 T; D% X1 {: ]+ ]6 X	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ! y/ Y* I( {% N. N" T+ }
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE8 l8 N" W H, j2 Y! B2 B( H	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 5 ~, W5 l. D! \5 m
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited8 h- J! L+ @* [6 h4 a L. a- S	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 2 J) R) o/ g# Y& R
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner+ G; R# w- \/ [1 j	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 & s6 K2 D2 P" G3 c) e
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 9 E; H4 z# \4 Y1 l	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX! w! X+ @: p" k/ m8 L4 b
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 4 }7 u, `4 o3 \|	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX $ y& u; K+ x+ b. E& b7 c
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ! \8 X9 t, K4 t% t9 _4 ]	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5, l' Z5 f! n( S" n0 d
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 2 d- j+ O. M" A6 ~	• 1995 Toyota Tercel : U7 v% D/ S7 l" }* s- f
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 5 t; ]0 N, b* r; p( b( U; }, Q	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ; l" f7 _" m+ l+ k: M
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 R( ?& \) ^1 j0 A0 G7 Q	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX % D. B) }* d& \|* d' N- \|
• 2005 Toyota Tundra ) M+ `( H% M3 \|( s	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE/ p0 q& B; L! i7 \|0 D5 H: `
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 0 W6 H/ Q# M6 ?5 t9 S( q	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX , t8 \|+ N0 [0 d" w! Z
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5) V8 `$ p' \|. h& T" a, u: q	• 1995 Toyota T-100 6 p! }2 _1 [, W0 [/ Z& W- @
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited- F/ X# q1 y# \|$ ?; R+ ~" v7 p	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma ' }$ H: p. ~1 w/ \|
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL5 R$ a) z! ^* w2 D( ]- }	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE : s" U5 r$ S$ U# o
• 2005 Toyota Camry ' I! e5 W& j- P* W0 ]	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR53 X+ i! t* M% J$ ^) I
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring 9 K# ~# S9 k+ J1 ~+ L	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX" B, b9 M( T5 _/ B }0 V$ [" t
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE ) x0 _# { H- y9 l/ T! }* f' r	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX0 ^" Y; r8 U1 R
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE. }- s- K0 ~6 [" i5 v/ D6 I	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX / w9 z) _9 e* Q2 r4 f/ B* h
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited0 M6 M; ]6 P% E/ l5 P4 \% V6 W6 f8 F	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5/ e- f7 x/ N; @% z$ K5 l: Z" S
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 5 X P5 n) s, l0 M: s	• 1994 Toyota Pickup . E; ]; U! _# R. r2 o" I
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S$ m3 c5 h9 S D5 m	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE( U2 a" {% H0 l7 `# x6 e" b; [
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE z/ U: q g- q* v% I; b	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 5 S) w* U2 ^ `' c2 b, \) @* b9 m
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited) f$ A Y: g# p	• 1994 Toyota T-100 % p* F, S2 q# J5 p
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR57 j) I) E- t% g: U: I	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5' D5 B: A u) `4 ~' H6 x
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE3 ]/ z7 i' c8 \# F: H, X$ Q1 R	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 2 }% l8 D, j+ ~" u7 O& c
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 * _* i- l8 Z2 {9 V/ Q" c9 X	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX K- r4 T" o0 F/ M8 M, O
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS; @! ?2 O3 f4 m- u8 l4 x	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5! f2 Z! A5 o0 R/ d" P
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE ! f% ]( t5 p+ y5 o	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE : T" c V4 m3 O; N1 `1 I7 _" z' s
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 6 @2 J% x9 u6 T* q* _. Y4 N	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ! I( Q" v4 R" a: i$ T$ \|/ x
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 1 x+ S1 j& H5 I	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 8 i) x/ N2 {- F! s1 w0 Z
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 5 u$ m3 [% ]; T' w$ W	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE ) @* y& v; m6 i3 ]7 t0 q% l
• 2005 Toyota Prius 5 t9 S. m# P" [: g# t* _6 I+ V5 @	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 3 ~. l1 O9 _$ P3 w' l
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 9 @: P) N" a; ~+ e, s/ J! V s7 a	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton* m0 B* E" j& t0 S$ F* b
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE: p; v& @; F% ^5 i! Z4 I; r	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR53 J: [0 h6 n; c& }! A1 W, F, M
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 9 }1 o6 k8 j; O# w% J9 X) H! _	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX2 `. n6 \( e; ?- \" j
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5! R7 u4 O% K4 q- \7 r1 G	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX" O4 w; w: G/ l8 \|* Z
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ( B' v8 a! ~, W% t( r. ^	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX t0 i+ \6 R2 h% k! J2 s$ V, J
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 9 x- p; }1 Y, x1 T4 y/ f9 Z	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser # [6 r4 R" l, @. w0 T. f' Y8 l3 Q
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE, _* W* h# \* _: P	• 1993 Toyota T-100 + A; l' b" s5 b9 m
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE D1 H! b9 U0 ?	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE 3 Q* Q$ b/ M7 ?2 y5 `
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited ' s$ W4 u7 A0 ]7 ~	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 1 U) n( X# M- k" o+ U
• 2004 Toyota Prius 4 N$ Q8 ?9 `4 O" B9 {	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE `/ K( e0 J9 M/ W6 E# H
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma : h6 U. X* m& e. i6 Q	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE & o, J+ T. v, i; n0 B& U' n0 ]$ p
• 2004 Toyota Tundra . W8 }9 S/ U+ n; T	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) u( @, S( a; M5 I* y: ?
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE ) I: [ J8 \|! Q: m: W	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5/ H; G( Y5 j+ c, e0 ~/ M/ k
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited! V7 z$ Y, w4 @" G	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 8 k* x% B5 }2 b' U7 _1 X
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited ; T0 Z% m3 F% L	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE* V. H# G2 l% k% d7 `2 w
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE ; \' Y0 s2 b; Q, b5 G7 g/ s2 F/ G	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX3 e( Y4 E8 H: e. p; S3 N
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 9 G( Y! N' d- H+ G5 D! c	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE& u6 y5 t* V; o; }, _
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE: U3 `3 Q2 d# k. K	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac u2 Q" j6 A. w x* n
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited % E& ?1 z5 z9 O$ X6 A' _	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, j: z- q9 `. c d
• 2004 Toyota Highlander * P8 P* H& u5 P; w+ s	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE r& w; i5 m2 T+ P. w6 c0 ]
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner9 V8 @, H3 A% K2 B2 W5 N1 r	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 0 y, e; _. N2 Z% G
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 3 Z$ x# v: K4 C3 Z	• 1992 Toyota MR2 ( A, u- \5 D% Z( i
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner2 j% y) S' Z( n$ \|! Y# f, j	• 1992 Toyota Pickup " L5 i+ [. r6 z! P Q2 w% H
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 / W b R: U4 C: \7 A+ [	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX + X" _3 ?" d% C/ {. {, f
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 9 H3 ?- @5 p. g4 O6 B	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac 3 a# Q: ^$ x8 E
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner" h. v; O* \+ r: i	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 % w7 s* n. j( {- r
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S! D: \|9 p3 S& {8 D	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX/ F4 _0 A& ]3 k# ]3 a8 {& ?+ O
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited 7 v2 q8 a* o# f! y	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 % m5 @0 e5 N( ~/ ]- f% @5 j
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner `2 S7 ~/ Y# H4 e+ V5 T9 a	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 F/ O# @ x" b
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 % } w# ~, z2 Q b( m	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 9 `% F. c6 q- Y* Y2 D
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 q( P5 b$ H' _* C$ \9 e. C	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 7 L& H8 _8 J3 J- \! \|; M( J
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 7 g3 ?$ ~' Q2 `3 ^# a+ f	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , ?: N* o9 G' Z+ R9 L% _
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT 5 t+ Q' P: _" X' m: B	• 1991 Toyota Camry 1 C% o2 s# h: H# W- U. K2 ] r
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE % V: @: Z. ^$ E4 F: g4 f	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser # o& {7 P) P. k% z5 q8 T
• 2003 Toyota Highlander . Y2 j. P+ r, m6 g	• 1991 Toyota Pickup I8 Q2 D8 w8 B) Z6 }
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 1 W3 c4 p0 o2 C& l	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX & P. a# @2 y1 W( o
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 5 U1 M$ H m- N5 @) Q" w- d& G	• 1991 Toyota MR2 + G& m& q- R# {( y. s8 J
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 5 g0 u. g2 Q0 t# a; r! Z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 + U5 C; ^5 D2 ^1 T$ \
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited8 n0 ?8 e9 h+ \5 H6 m- L	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 9 S0 d4 T' m) T5 g
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE ; ~) ]# d3 D$ {: R+ J/ ?# g$ f6 N	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 8 \2 R& ~: k1 \
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 f, b4 I/ r0 \|6 [# Y	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % I# [% y/ ]4 d6 ]6 r
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE& a. C0 E8 y# [9 X; s! P	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof1 I6 S- R! \/ V# X+ t
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE$ w7 Y1 n* U3 H5 {" @) s	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX+ I5 y5 ^) g' ^
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited& A5 j( t' R. x	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE 1 ?; S0 j8 T6 S( \& d2 I& L
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited$ x4 u) H, `6 R5 L	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ; `+ {6 W+ D1 V
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited; x6 Q( {; h1 d: r	• 1990 Toyota Pickup " U: R" w+ R% \: c( y. d I
• 2002 Toyota ECHO % L4 D3 v9 B: Z b3 x	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ) x2 g! c: e5 r
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE( z, m5 y) C4 @# N2 W8 e	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5/ p5 {+ d3 X5 C( r
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 B P- a& n; ]6 w	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ) Z$ O8 ]# S9 U1 V
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE' ~+ C! e2 S) j* ~2 B	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT ' z5 Z0 r+ W5 r4 D2 P& i! \$ C
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT ! E& v9 o( ~3 \( \' C/ y: T	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base % ^% {7 ? \8 u) @, H( Q. C6 R: b* _
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner+ S3 \. L; L6 X7 ?; T6 ]	• 1990 Toyota Camry 6 x" b+ j- \6 M4 T
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S 9 v; n( v. c. c. T6 E( @* {	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST( x2 o% m8 S9 N2 n) u j. @8 A
• 2002 Toyota Highlander , S+ z/ a- s" m	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX 6 b: _! B$ I! c9 I) Y' K# O- @
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ L4 s; @* J. i% E9 X" F3 `	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX# b5 I; ~8 i& `- j) X6 I- h
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR56 [( f. O- Q; h1 {# z	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 b& D0 `6 T% D$ y6 I
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5% {" E0 S5 r9 J/ Z: X	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS / [6 X0 t9 `2 j, X: f; m. D
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE ) X6 B% O, b1 y3 a	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser / I+ q4 L& F$ [- \|1 q
• 2002 Toyota Prius / U0 u9 U2 g6 ]# K+ }6 _2 a) W- _/ I	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton) n+ m; g% e. M! W
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 s: Q; j: `1 R7 T3 {	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX2 \1 Y0 E7 K- k. m
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS4 T' O4 c+ D! ?7 B3 [: _8 d9 B	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac & ~1 W1 N5 I" M; T5 {* m3 Z
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE' h% \|" ]9 F+ `9 c	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac2 K/ b4 B9 l% w$ _* R% H/ F
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ! g: s o2 m7 j1 q- G$ k- f* y	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 0 q: z6 i ]8 m1 P( F) W
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 9 ], ?0 q4 p/ @5 C" x9 e	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac' M( m* Z' o* Q: Q
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE - W5 s. s+ X& Y* L. V3 ^7 T	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac& q& x ?; _/ f$ j+ b$ W5 H- e
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 3 t! h! O9 b, x* N1 H	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ' o$ J/ K: V% W; Z
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL1 W* A7 I! z4 a: I4 S! w	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base% O* G: {7 }: V4 F
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited i" D) T% f; {	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 Y6 n6 q3 t9 G( s
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT& q$ i4 M- e4 v( _1 M% \|! m' z	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser + I6 r% L, a* d4 \|
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE Z" G- V8 X" Y* V. K% e. q/ v	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE + j8 v: b3 l& m# I3 I" S) k
• 2001 Toyota Prius * J, H' g6 P2 E% _' _8 w3 }	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX& \8 n- I) \5 ~1 l
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 4 _ m* E* \2 ~; \|# Z- L	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton# f7 Z8 X8 Z# Q/ X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra $ f% I6 [3 a# \|& I5 J1 j% t- x" u	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger* x1 e8 \|. x6 o; N3 @0 L1 V4 u3 m: {
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 6 s9 g `7 ^9 y( q- Z, m( r	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX , W$ I' d" M% g R) t: N
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited 0 ~# Z$ v0 w K) \|4 h# M	• 1989 Toyota Camry 9 ^3 Y- t$ K, M9 A! l. Q& X
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5. u# U' q' E* S. s: S4 e	• 1989 Toyota Tercel ( e8 _0 X$ k" l: G; t
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE * e' s: S2 h. r; c	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX3 ~8 k, `; L! X! {
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE # q0 k) `. [8 L v) w6 Q- D	• 1989 Toyota Pickup ]: r% g P$ {2 k3 X( I& B2 ^, B
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ) ? q6 Y5 R0 Y! G' Z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5. S9 N I7 l% b0 Z+ d* v+ Q' G7 \|
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS* Q6 L8 I. k- r# `. F	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger% f1 ^% Q! z2 a1 V @9 K
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 5 s4 F R0 O$ y7 S3 S/ s	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ. j9 P% T, y% N, A4 @' u
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5" ~# e- b& J6 J	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel & s& W f) V0 w3 i$ n( v1 Q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner. N& d2 z0 } H( O	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX" D+ g& y- G; T& m" Y
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS ) G( w8 S/ G7 F* f, J	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ * }8 ?) I6 A3 f7 t" {% F& f/ e
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S; a5 H6 K* L5 U2 }& v5 f$ P3 U j. F	• 1988 Toyota Camry " p9 q& s; R) H9 T7 n$ Z, i
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & i m Q+ S& ^, h e1 G- \	• 1988 Toyota Pickup $ F% Y/ h! F1 d+ ?3 U% E
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR55 W( D1 i2 j! E) E E U, a' b: N	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger, q9 _$ p# L0 P
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE' u: E; u4 q' \2 ?	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ; Y2 ^! V2 A5 W5 V
• 2001 Toyota Highlander ) K/ B1 X) r: L% f; _( }2 g9 I% t0 x	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 6 c4 Z! ]3 ~, H4 b' m, ^
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited: n4 t& p5 W4 O	• 1988 Toyota Van DX * n! [( \# R( I4 t1 F! a5 M1 L3 l7 S
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ?" a4 ?3 V& U3 C' X1 k1 Z+ r* Q	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger& P* ~5 S* S9 a: L7 _( Q( N s* U
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma ! {3 u$ d1 ]" u& V- D	• 1988 Toyota Tercel {1 L0 B8 x! v# j) p b
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT + E; K. d, b5 {	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE1 S% O; B5 L. f2 }. o8 V: b
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 5 f& n4 m' k( D0 t! g* E	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window ! w8 c c- r1 L7 B, k
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 ; i' _ h3 M6 A% I2 k, C( F1 M	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton E& `8 N7 G/ u1 I2 M% F& ^5 v
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; v& @# h- X' y4 k	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser # _2 u( ^% J- Q/ u Z3 q# U
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 * m3 b# L6 B/ e& ~) b6 _% @7 \	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 ' }4 }1 O: t& j% d# q1 C) v. \7 _
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 5 I# q6 O; I* E/ r/ b, k	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger V7 P# A8 ~5 b
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE/ O% c# M3 N! L0 F4 [3 ?	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B! A; [- C7 u1 a, q; N! \
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS$ L" X% @- X# V1 b	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac- S5 O' C4 p' h, G
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 8 ^% [$ a$ G- B# ~/ Z( Q5 A	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger , }" d7 [5 V @9 m$ s4 _* a- L% s
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara & T7 v& ~+ @9 z6 J! [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 3 v( S* [# J7 B/ O4 c4 @
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited & Z: n9 Q6 @' @! T1 G2 }) @6 w3 j	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX - k* ]) H" e2 F2 z
• 2000 Toyota Tundra " u5 W) K' G b+ H. [	• 1988 Toyota Van LE # N) {& d5 F& ~* T. S1 U" Z
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS0 Z: c+ x4 P( N	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser @) \|! A3 l+ k- i
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE) {% O+ `: H. g2 @	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 4 }/ o' ^1 N' Z- i4 j
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited" R0 R, K8 \|9 @, X: R, f4 I	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE # F; E; D/ a+ V- [
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 6 ]$ k6 L8 H% w# W L/ m	• 1987 Toyota Van DX @8 e! ^+ ]9 H+ A4 Q0 r
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 2 y* R% N% _2 J6 [* `. D	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window+ N. p* i5 p) v% w& ?" X
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5! \|) w" M4 h/ u	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 2 p: o9 H7 \/ v I
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE% _+ V( Z9 b# U, _	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 1 w8 f. M0 h6 b" _- T
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 8 E- i" B+ k. {" ?( ~; r1 g4 i1 E	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX+ \/ ]7 ?. X6 G1 N- \|# W8 s; u
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner ) d \|" _7 j! v; y$ s	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 0 b, Q1 f$ N$ `
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 6 l& y: q, A4 G' D5 ?2 E( K	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 1 U" O7 s: _ j* T
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( Q) S4 T* t. N7 d: w, s	• 1987 Toyota Van LE7 e+ q3 e+ U# T) W0 v3 }- `1 z
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE d0 `" H, Y+ o6 ?	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel & I$ r1 ^9 M6 D0 y0 M) ?/ H
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE & f% x, W) `4 G; [$ i. Y7 r3 J	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX) w$ E0 }, Q) T6 e ~" G9 d
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma % }0 v; c2 y% v+ z* @2 b	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ! D1 X' \|5 g$ {) w/ m
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS , r; {! f& A3 f/ h	• 1986 Toyota Van LE % n ~- F% P" d7 B, j2 ^
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 9 M; \/ z2 o$ i# z	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser . \, \8 D% ` V. m
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 8 H T1 J% C6 W8 o$ C" w% C	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel( D. l0 s- c3 @7 Z, d
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 $ P+ f) R \|3 K1 G	• 1986 Toyota Van DX % ]# l$ y* v0 C# r; y2 o ^. Y7 G8 R
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited+ K4 R/ z) ?, ^- B c9 a	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window8 ^9 T; [- f! V( D. l- z' n
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE $ j, q$ @+ X# @0 X" P5 P	• 1985 Toyota Van ! N6 G6 @4 B6 V4 d
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE * a! c" ^7 q' u# f& p	• 1985 Toyota Van LE+ u2 \8 m& R. l6 H* k+ u
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL - @: @% m4 j& \7 L& r3 J& o	• 1985 Toyota Van DX# t: A. B$ E7 n+ e# }$ f4 O* @
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE ; S$ \/ L& \|7 h9 J3 T	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 I9 R, K; Y/ z3 R! W5 F
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited: E; @- Z9 f0 R* y. D2 i# _	• 1984 Toyota Van DX, R6 v3 M/ O' I9 K
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE ' \|6 B9 V7 q# _	• 1984 Toyota Supra ' r/ x. B8 B: r! ^, C
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 0 j% q, c' p# G	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX 1 K& G7 z; H! {1 H$ S# o
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE3 q s5 ]4 a9 y2 l7 H: v- e- }: O$ j	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser # e2 j4 ] x5 _' Z/ W' c. l2 n
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited * y% }( l: E; j4 T2 q	• 1984 Toyota Cressida ' r0 A; K ?' ]$ _0 ^4 \2 x! T( a
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS! t" C& V0 t% @	• 1984 Toyota Van 5 \- A: @, T3 ]( b7 q
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE " B( \; R) I+ b	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ' {/ L& o; s7 y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 4 ^) Y) t4 G* R' D	• 1984 Toyota Van LE% \|- i" o8 ?& k `5 r" U
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE: F; R# Y: V, H	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE. P/ P4 F6 S/ k+ z3 U' T
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX % W2 q ^- R: V# O	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR57 Z, y: [! d+ }- }% M* E
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * H2 o6 K0 n( f/ G& e; }	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX ; `' v& \|# Y$ }6 Y7 J' ~/ M a
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE % t) l% L1 S, c9 ?) U	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE, W0 S3 a6 }, {; v) U, i
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 5 P! v% c( C p: ^. w9 V	• 1983 Toyota Supra , m- _5 u$ }" A" ]
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma : H4 W- t( O; a* V$ U( e8 s4 u; }0 z	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 B3 D6 v9 d5 G7 B: H# t
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL. h& `' Z, L- l) V. z	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX) z. D) H1 Z+ h: m% p
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE. Z, Y7 c( W+ h" }	• 1983 Toyota Cressida . ^5 A* l7 ~, F: y r k/ R
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner- S) q" U b- l	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT V# \|, ^% r. p3 A* Y- F) o0 k) u
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ' ^* V/ J. b- C0 E* n- m7 q2 P	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser : r4 n4 ~1 \4 ^# E; K5 k1 m& b
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited3 f6 X& b. \|0 `: g$ R; }1 T	• 1982 Toyota Cressida . O0 j& K( L, E+ W) c6 E6 T4 F
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE " _, h$ ?& c( `# c0 v	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 5 l6 m2 S! `3 y/ q0 Y/ s
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ) q! f* z3 S/ `/ X. @	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST ! N2 z) t0 f6 a2 h6 \|7 h
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR51 f9 H3 G L- \$ o3 `! r' ~3 G A	• 1982 Toyota Tercel $ _& o2 n' K" _3 d: f; F) M
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX : ~8 L" F8 @, a) G2 M8 b! o o	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 ; t s% e. X6 E* h
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma " q8 k( F [9 n4 M- ~4 ?	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 8 S8 G3 f, P9 n! i q y$ L
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS ; R* h6 l4 n0 A: I1 }	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5& s( B; A% H; s& n# o" t
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX; O3 m# a5 y# K& V* q5 U. n! o	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 K+ ~' Y5 j& D+ n: ?2 v" r' w! N0 C
• 1997 Toyota T-100 8 l1 c* B; M7 [) l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX & P1 j! O: T4 I: L: r9 s5 z
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited: o- X. d3 j& [$ \5 g5 R+ _	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 2 M! ^7 d# s$ \|; F- d9 K6 S
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE( Y1 ~7 a! f: x	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT/ _8 ?+ o% P* c* h$ _+ Z+ e
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR51 g0 k- \2 M* r% g: X/ K. b/ p	• 1980 Toyota Corolla P# T3 n1 w) L9 G+ T/ b7 z
• 1997 Toyota Corolla : r! f2 l( u+ i1 N& \% a; `9 u5 G$ G	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 x3 \' h$ [# l
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 6 w! _& Y! H8 N) _	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe( H0 F" B8 L% L
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL + I( c+ H1 v) t) i9 F1 ~	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX$ o+ P9 \, @" x& \|( W- p C/ B
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE# j3 g* Y- H0 n$ i	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST" t5 }' ]* j& G4 V5 V" T+ J
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 1 c6 R J" p$ P& Y/ d	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury ) U+ u. M# w/ C, E, h
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE 1 U8 O0 W7 T6 Q: p2 Q! Q	• 1980 Toyota Tercel * A- _: {; b, c
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 6 t7 \|3 N: N8 Z2 Z9 d5 w0 F0 n8 }	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 + r$ c! h: P0 ]% m* y x0 H
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX- G$ g$ h' s' P3 ]3 l	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe) W% N! S: P W k
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE& t3 d2 e7 u7 K	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 / K2 d/ P+ y$ Q9 {$ G8 `: Z
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( V- L9 d }/ a; r4 }, R6 w

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
4 x. G* g5 J* k* [- LToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE- i$ N8 x4 O; c8 y S" I' v
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE- v, Y5 L6 x9 H# S8 q9 ^7 K
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 1 g9 n8 P. \: z L5 t
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 3 i# r! Y6 i0 d: c
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6 `7 U2 ]/ E' ]佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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  y* {  l! z! g  {4 P1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；1 l% g  R0 T. j1 W: ]. R$ H
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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