說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 / a" B0 \, k3 f! o6 c$ }
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
+ {! j3 V A4 k" j# d8 A! W楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ! E3 h+ j/ x. K
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 6 N! S2 ?1 i/ j3 q" u
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 0 S- a7 |- [: P

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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE $ F. n+ e0 o& \|, `+ n$ e	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE ! S2 Y6 j+ A' E9 K! [% U$ ]
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport 6 {% e: L. m. l% l8 R7 O	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE3 b8 Z% e# c, _5 m8 F1 H
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE ! k2 v9 a7 _' ?3 o. F K* H6 M. U- G	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX: F8 z7 V8 v/ l6 z5 E3 ~+ m
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5) x& }$ s$ k7 ^6 j	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 1 t5 Q* s* K. g+ @
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE" ~+ B/ w& }% W" A	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE ; M7 x" G- j( e$ K
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE $ y% u6 U! A, y+ l6 Y	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX " ?5 S2 _% D" m. `
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid- k! g- D0 b4 P" f: f/ Z	• 1996 Toyota Corolla $ `, K# ]) y8 ~* J- L# z
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited ( O- s5 v( ~+ W2 F	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ' z5 c! [$ v7 M- M
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE8 A- c' H2 ~+ z; {+ Y1 O5 p	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE) ~! \* A1 C% V7 }/ Q' V' k
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE9 Z! r4 Y; G9 v	• 1996 Toyota T-100 $ ^- k$ o5 L4 P
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE2 Q6 _" R) x, S/ \|/ i	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST 1 t0 Z8 x6 t7 I% u/ L
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited ( R) [# m& q/ }- n& Y	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited E! O* \; X, n. m+ j3 x
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ D& Q' R9 A+ Y	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX2 \8 _1 ?4 @8 y, j0 b5 Y
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 0 a' K( i: e" [+ g' f	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 " E# Z: r% t* @ s; G% f
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE: U) [/ Q7 k: K0 Q+ O8 w	• 1996 Toyota Tercel * ?, T( S+ N( z+ K4 i: @. A9 H
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5% U! a$ x' ^2 R! @- h0 t( a	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX' l- r3 c$ e: @& d: V: L4 M
• 2006 Toyota Tundra _3 o- u$ k5 T0 y	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT3 t9 Z$ \|: O9 n" L" p
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 1 X' R4 J+ ?) V o3 N% Y	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ) n* H, @9 A+ E: q- m
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL9 M# `: v6 w6 f9 U8 O s	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 6 U6 E+ \2 u4 O3 U, K
• 2006 Toyota Prius : T' V2 D7 @5 z+ Q0 Y	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX * n) D( r! H6 {' M# [, \|
• 2006 Toyota Camry & e# A1 \|) g$ p	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 0 X4 }3 K8 z, A8 B( J1 } y2 B
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring8 i' ~# g. _. M: o: W	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE( q/ B7 w% `2 {8 L
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma / O5 T1 _/ j, k; T3 p8 Q, `	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ; J3 q \0 V* `
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE3 y8 d% q/ z, x+ v! Y) q4 J	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 8 R% L5 C% K8 D
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited7 T$ y9 A$ J+ u: c+ l	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 & b* U, n+ m" T4 ~
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 0 M/ C' i* [- O% X7 P, J9 [	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR59 ~9 U" L' v: S* p
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5% Z7 X* M$ K8 Q- U	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX # ?4 E$ A/ [4 l# [) Q- q: }: y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S+ A$ G+ [* J, Q	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX2 e: S3 L+ r3 j# \
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited1 S# Q0 q) q* G	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) p; P& B, C. j+ _
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE) b' F; i. U8 y& U. H! i	• 1995 Toyota Tercel ! T! m3 g7 M9 r' e7 j- H5 C
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ' h& p2 ?* Y) C f( i1 M	• 1995 Toyota Corolla $ c1 O% f8 [2 R9 e1 B
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 3 H! y- X/ g6 C+ @	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX+ J i: C7 P+ {! p* s) K
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 1 G$ c1 t! U# q	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE ! o- j; \4 p- ?2 ?7 b
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 0 R( o' P: x4 t9 L9 K	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX * ]$ d* c9 h- Y) n
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5' X5 R) \; A$ r6 H' r5 d: x	• 1995 Toyota T-100 2 P' V/ ]& v6 F! y$ h: i
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited' F# e \|! C$ p0 p: ^+ A: j	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 6 D$ m; r) i' Q! T' ^
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL ' U6 A" m( a, Z- ^' J4 E! q	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 5 q8 ~# u$ L8 V# H8 I! u2 n
• 2005 Toyota Camry / \|' M/ G! Z, o, K% U* f	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR59 K1 b) C+ R" T) a# F
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring( L* \|" u6 \# A	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX ' c% Q; h& g; H9 N) R( h
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE/ Q+ F W# S$ J+ `	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX6 f1 S- V& A5 ]: ^6 ^- \|# {
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE ; {4 `& t1 G7 K9 u$ }0 l	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX - A; e. k$ _+ S" G2 c/ f
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited ! A7 N- r$ ~9 C7 e: n0 t ]	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 6 t1 W4 X# u; j U0 H4 h( {
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 7 U* o7 h; f3 ^7 g1 K	• 1994 Toyota Pickup * r0 s- h8 E( p8 o1 R7 ^
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S2 E% L$ l% a+ x6 q	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE / \|1 ~5 [( ~: ^1 S) w
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE8 G: B" L9 n: F& J5 o" m	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE) V; u( m: B9 ^4 h
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited+ _9 J; w) q7 [- d, P	• 1994 Toyota T-100 0 y, O' J& A: k. f
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5/ O8 X* h" u- ^& H	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5& q) P' N1 m3 a# Q4 K. S4 F
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 7 C7 x2 u- R% H! ^/ `) d' U6 _* k	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 3 a& T9 e# B3 A' S2 d c# J( o	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX , X2 b% f: h1 ?: e4 a- M
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS $ v0 s: C6 }. W; l% l3 l	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2 \! S0 [+ z( k. q8 i0 y0 H
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE' L2 @6 ^6 \|3 j9 I, x	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE $ I5 I1 s9 O& X& p$ }6 ^7 \|# N
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE" E3 _ ?* O! n: L: W0 d8 I7 ?	• 1994 Toyota Corolla + Y; \|# @- M0 A7 s8 ~
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited/ M6 K' _- N* {	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton* G* L0 L/ o. v2 `# A7 Y \7 k% n
• 2005 Toyota Highlander $ \3 B; J' k$ }7 r n	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE& r! S f- f K+ q# s
• 2005 Toyota Prius : Q) o2 {+ r S3 H	• 1993 Toyota Corolla - K. R8 h3 a" I* p9 J1 r$ @
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE , M; A! ]. n/ {0 f8 s8 Y	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton7 g$ C* j7 N/ R3 U
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE: t) S$ }7 a# ?# k) T3 e; U4 J	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5- B+ A$ ]/ A4 c7 U$ O$ L; S
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 3 L6 F& q, A) c( s* I	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX( x4 P7 M, i, p8 ]1 h1 z: A
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR50 e5 X- Q8 n( l r1 [' C/ [% {% Z	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX + Y# D" S3 P$ S- y S5 H
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ) U" q3 V' P; v: I! X: u	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX / T, Z" X' J$ `% ]7 U9 J
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE & q9 C5 L8 y e/ e, C	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser , D) A: y) C4 f: Z
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE # E# q6 X7 W& A# l6 }9 U	• 1993 Toyota T-100 . ?8 P; I' q$ g" E% O; W
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE; t2 u+ [ k) \|	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE $ m6 m. {4 @5 S' L, `; _) z( z. _
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 6 a ~1 F$ w$ T! ^2 _$ w	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 0 C, `& Y, t! P& \6 X% n) b; p
• 2004 Toyota Prius . q8 T% \0 d8 A: L1 d/ G	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE ' q; {; ]4 ?* A+ R' E' J4 ^
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 9 Q) I, R8 }) l	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE# \" k; b. s/ g$ q3 Y; _& a8 A1 L4 v. Z
• 2004 Toyota Tundra . D5 T! Q% J5 [9 @	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 . O; ^& D& t& v1 y' o
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 9 C) r2 w2 M6 \8 Y2 \|	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; s5 B* j4 [5 A9 F" k, y" H& `
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 1 D \|5 k o( ^7 [" x* x	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE& ^8 S1 N( t( ?- n' E, ~9 E0 b- W5 u# a
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited $ N7 n6 O/ W1 v# L	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE( k4 ?: ~) c8 _4 A
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE# g- ^6 ^% l" J! R! i! b9 n# u3 D	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 h' P: N+ Q- `" X$ C% u
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 3 E" M7 x' B; I; D9 z+ S	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE, S! k. p9 h% T. k7 @0 v: a
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE& u, I' ^5 Q- A, R	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac, ^' K8 x. F1 `4 j! q! E/ o+ W, N, k
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited & W1 N8 T: a0 P: s' s7 F6 ]4 M" \	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ! ^& M# q; q, x9 v. a: H: r
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ( l& K3 d# a) @/ s	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE% n: d$ n3 }# F$ I# T3 q
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 5 g3 @2 I: J. Y ^/ r9 i* P	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 6 H" h1 S( ?& q0 b c
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S. F3 e7 L! V1 M6 b8 ~ n n	• 1992 Toyota MR2 2 c0 F+ i1 U4 p/ \|& J5 ?
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner# m$ {& d8 ?$ l# p/ r% I# t8 C	• 1992 Toyota Pickup . s, G5 }0 ?& I/ W( c Y3 A
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 & K8 `, p$ `" A6 Q	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX- ]8 f% o4 n, {. B9 B
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 1 a9 K7 U {" I8 U	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac & ^$ r \& X/ {% p& C5 ]
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner* Y) O+ Z3 d$ [: Q& x1 h	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 J; Q) w" B& F k: N9 E0 K
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S' \9 i7 u, M! ~4 G	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX , y4 @& F* k g {/ I( y
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited & H; r4 j9 V+ b; D8 E	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; e6 G7 Q7 U0 i) @# }
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner7 K! [" s2 O2 A# y, ?	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 H$ H8 } k7 Y- O( ]$ m0 d" Z
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5) X5 f' S; o5 d' q1 o0 I2 X* I	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof0 w3 u4 j3 ]% S7 ~
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited# C- x; u1 L X: h8 B4 w	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 7 a! ^# }0 x1 `2 ^3 j. l6 Z- Y
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE - K2 b8 n0 }9 }; y7 E0 a, y	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5# i& S% @+ t6 b e
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT 9 I5 p+ F9 T- ]+ w& k7 e	• 1991 Toyota Camry $ ?# s$ e) u8 \|0 j
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE$ G- }8 p, }- T0 P6 I' W	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ; {9 O$ K! U$ d
• 2003 Toyota Highlander * x! E, w9 O) y4 P1 I' T( G# Z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup % J+ T8 j" q) U- _, c
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma % J$ Q3 F8 B1 m7 V5 p! p g h	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ! T; a ~2 Y2 z0 N* l8 N8 J
• 2003 Toyota Tundra $ H6 r; F& J5 S4 I' ]& A/ o9 s	• 1991 Toyota MR2 : ~ Y9 ^ o6 \|( M! B
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 2 w% ?/ T3 `) `9 @	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5, U+ `" t1 l* p$ ]/ Y$ P6 V
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited# l+ d s9 w/ F% u. N: n! I	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 5 A4 H3 _, B6 m/ u
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE# s8 Y6 U4 r4 i& ^, \	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 5 q3 w7 p7 F2 b3 P* ?1 d( Y
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5! ?$ s S# V( U c; j f3 g	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac( F3 i$ `& C# ]: O' Q7 D
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE r1 K3 T; s/ l `3 d" ]	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ! I2 \|" g" C# Z3 z3 \
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE / X0 R$ ?& B1 X	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX % x# s( s- @; ~3 Q
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited - W3 m: {9 y& p4 U3 Z7 U) ^( U	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE / C7 s0 A; \|3 h; @; @ R+ q: G+ l
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited% X/ ^4 g2 [2 v' W	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton+ n4 o2 T5 k4 W- x+ j0 q8 o) w
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited) n* m4 u( u/ I- O4 j0 i, i	• 1990 Toyota Pickup " X. T6 U$ a+ Z' P
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 1 P% G. f" x* }	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE 4 ?/ N" ~- Y! L `
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE ( \) `( W* F* m; y/ @. k0 m	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5! v; I, [2 F% e" k! a2 {5 C
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 E* Z& @6 {3 @. t; \; s2 b: ^6 L	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ2 _7 O7 a! b N# y
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE, D5 N# M1 `* w# p! G	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT! E% q. b$ \: `1 }) N' {5 O
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT ; B/ G+ c, [4 g, a/ a	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base9 R J/ i' f/ u" s
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner1 F0 R. m3 M) {4 O8 \	• 1990 Toyota Camry 5 }( r* m0 \|/ h* X! B* N
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S- s/ l4 N9 N2 X( E* \' e3 B	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST + r6 Z. ^: \2 C- H8 H- V% ]3 W
• 2002 Toyota Highlander " x: {) c: H) j- U' S! G7 [* P; Z) @	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX ! U) A& \) q- x) ? z. n
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 p! K9 {3 [& S3 Y$ S	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX T$ B; d5 o a8 X1 t3 z6 L
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR57 C5 @* q2 o; \|	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; Z3 w) T& u/ m+ ]7 i( o
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5- L/ j8 l) H6 p+ q; @. L' C/ O# y	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS & R7 w; d: Y9 y6 y9 Q, f
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE: D0 `8 l4 U% O* ^' q7 \|8 z" y; O	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 K) z8 }8 I# N1 C/ s# v3 z0 r7 @
• 2002 Toyota Prius 1 l: i# j; [) H9 \|9 z	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton0 U! Z$ ?) V q" E; m, ^
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 9 j# w4 a% L1 J$ i! g7 K	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX & \0 L7 l) Z7 n' C- h
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS . R( m! M: j& m	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac" t# T" A" L6 A: I+ A9 e5 C7 c$ z
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE 1 N0 J, n3 X" h4 M8 y1 g	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac 6 H$ i, N/ Q4 {+ Z4 v @! k
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ; a# \" v2 [# p, G$ D( H' Y	• 1990 Toyota Tercel i- Y/ L8 I2 m6 ~$ V. y
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 1 T. j- n# B! F	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ' C1 L+ q+ H. U8 r7 u* N
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 2 g+ t! v% C9 E2 j# H4 ^, e	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 5 ~) n2 J$ t: k. i. w9 i
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE6 M0 R, \9 D: \|) ^7 l6 M- x) L	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger, i9 }9 @+ L" l
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL% Z6 u4 I& o- } u- i# R, `	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base0 W$ \|7 [1 _" N4 @* z( x* L+ Y
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited* S+ V. o% d' n. F$ J+ ] T4 W	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- l V: E: b% x0 V; k: G) \
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT% P, T( S6 ], ~7 K) \|; {& G	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ' @2 i" l6 \, ~7 B& n3 k
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE - N! L1 S$ G; a: o# x1 T	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE- w7 N+ L+ {: Q! `+ K& S: S3 b9 j# X
• 2001 Toyota Prius 3 [6 @( w$ T4 n. V* ~	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX s4 k6 v. S1 R+ Z5 @/ \|
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma # j0 ~0 Y2 q" L. [; z; B( z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton8 @. J0 Q6 F) t" M' E
• 2001 Toyota Tundra $ D" e6 b l, {/ E0 T( @" W	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger ' M6 J$ E* n; r4 n+ n0 `
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE; K: }. d" W' o0 N: e ^' a	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 o2 {) e) S W$ [3 ?
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited# w: [: Z7 l4 x	• 1989 Toyota Camry ) }6 e! J" A0 I; a1 X8 r w
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / o+ o2 r; Z9 e! i8 U$ h	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 5 r/ W1 r: a% }: g& z
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE / s, P) f Z2 c {	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX ' {& ?9 c+ \, F2 c Y
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE % [$ l3 ~( j# F4 m0 g! X* Q	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 6 H \: j! {+ X
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 7 [6 m8 g- S, X& v& ~% z* Q8 f( L, X	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 " i: Z1 i3 V% Q# x
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS# d1 N; ` M0 d5 _	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger3 x! [4 j7 L, N6 p s
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 2 U$ l/ K" T0 k7 z	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ4 o7 c$ h! C. N8 F
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 9 {* ^! e4 \# N9 C9 N) C3 v	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel6 [. t" c& P4 H9 {+ c
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner) c: f! W- G+ g0 G3 i- `' _	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX9 v R( h8 l' X6 ~4 B7 b/ }( Q7 `
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS8 C2 t* s& i5 S) h; C" T	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 9 G% D: B9 v, `
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S N6 k! }- k) V	• 1988 Toyota Camry " m% H ^ ?, B4 E: o1 P/ k& G$ \
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner H3 D$ N. g; [# }8 w	• 1988 Toyota Pickup # \|) v3 H- Y0 m% a+ t
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 , J- w, i) x. \|; ^& k) y$ P' p	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger . A; I* I- I l
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE B1 g6 L9 q/ O$ Y4 X	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ! V, t/ u& R( _6 Z' ]
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 5 ?# R; A g& J, ^1 h	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac5 M* q% n7 u n9 ^6 P% s
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited+ W O. K. h$ R" L. O1 {4 d0 X% ~/ I	• 1988 Toyota Van DX. v6 {7 B3 J9 B; Y, ^& u% ~
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 0 C% u8 V$ V% L6 ^( n	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 3 O5 @' F8 y6 P4 L( V1 y$ A
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 3 `) J+ k. n- L, ?3 m3 }* D3 f	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ; K. L3 B6 f# n- Y
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT! _' b* x: Z. r' \|, M' z	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE - r/ X: p2 n/ O
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE3 e1 O5 \# @5 G% N Z/ g* n	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window ) @6 }" ]# J9 j# r6 g
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 + k6 t5 v! D3 z: \( o# g	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton9 I' L, n% w" w: ]' J% g
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner# V% W& Y0 x' x4 F	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser " }4 O' h5 N" g8 D& ~
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 6 r/ i6 p! h# o. n2 l* o8 ^	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5" L0 ~0 [( m3 {9 u3 f P
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited " s. ~) F& S4 x$ `: x" H	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger. I& w5 g7 E# R
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE , s3 S- g& P+ `! h; r0 W+ v3 R	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B8 @; R4 z/ T& U" M8 n
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS # O! e5 q5 C! x3 e$ ?8 [6 ^	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac6 D! [2 @# V1 _
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 1 P! T! K2 l e; g- v! y: _	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger" [) J% U1 a5 a' @2 m
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara ( u- ~0 \|( u$ H$ G: Y& w, e; N9 S6 E	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR57 _, }3 X8 p% w# k% ?* C
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited8 @' w" z" u9 V( n. n' \( b	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX% c/ _' c7 @( W
• 2000 Toyota Tundra G) X, W" a# C	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 1 j) f P3 s2 j: {- g
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS0 w0 }4 y) I* G" k+ P	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 c2 G4 C+ _" Y2 A
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE0 Z2 I; R( x ?	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 5 K$ m* Q+ I8 c0 p0 _
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 6 N. j8 e6 G9 h) x4 G, u9 e	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE5 I% _9 M- s2 h6 ]5 o' W
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner , b1 N; y$ x1 \! L2 a) b	• 1987 Toyota Van DX2 D4 R: f7 L' i v0 H
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE" l; r; a/ K, H	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window # {1 H% `7 i# k6 J- _; `( o9 ]8 \
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5 W U$ R: H. z& b, M9 M	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 5 K- c+ _7 ~0 r
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE1 b! x2 m3 [/ L4 P; F. }	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 ^3 ^, M5 b5 f
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 0 C% \) d/ [, w7 g2 s. q7 ~7 q& b) H	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX' T5 K1 {- n- B8 n5 w: k# L
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner * I# r+ m' s. c/ @	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 9 ?, M- s& I' e/ c7 c' B/ X
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE( S8 D; k1 ?8 z. H	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX! r1 R, s9 `: n7 [
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 F2 F: i6 s, f' E; y9 N ?" l	• 1987 Toyota Van LE# B* L' p+ n! B( V$ }
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE % ]: \|- c ^" g; O4 W	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel . f( n+ J, Y0 k0 v9 j* _
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE. y+ e7 D$ h) f& Z9 V) b	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX " d* l9 a6 i! w
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 7 y$ o8 @4 L l; ]% A; L	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 0 l) s7 l+ y4 R; ]( W2 h( W
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS, p9 I' d, _# S- y$ {9 J	• 1986 Toyota Van LE $ i7 ]' Y. \|( H5 L( p
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE , [% @5 x& T+ V) }	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 P( ]# X2 l m) O' \
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 W" L8 F1 ?. V	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel' i9 r+ G" P) u9 M! g7 @0 Z
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 . d+ _" [: l& Y& P; C I4 ?	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 3 S( H! I- S' g1 Z0 `6 m- Y
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 6 \4 }- X0 c# B- ^+ `	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window6 J$ q+ D% x: m) k+ u- u! P: ]
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE ( Q/ ~# t" x2 m! y	• 1985 Toyota Van , H1 w) ^2 z7 u, B# U
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE; u4 N" J& {9 r	• 1985 Toyota Van LE & t8 ]" @- e( i* h2 n4 P6 D
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL / i, B! O" A! \|, Z/ y4 P	• 1985 Toyota Van DX `7 I4 x W- u0 M- ^% p2 r! i
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE . X# O+ `$ i! E	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 F* S5 u4 r9 O* O2 ~
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 0 h4 e) k) B2 c" V	• 1984 Toyota Van DX& p% D: T' c* F7 s3 j7 n
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE * N' H: F- d1 Q1 t5 e) N	• 1984 Toyota Supra / R3 v) F- x5 m' V1 [( I# M6 a
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE& s" J5 J9 w5 Z8 A	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX # t1 \0 _: q7 I1 H
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE , y3 O9 R& z) D) s	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ' l! T7 k+ X2 E9 e+ k8 L0 A+ B
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ( U4 `, `$ v1 y	• 1984 Toyota Cressida - \) D9 s: \9 f2 _9 m
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 5 g# M0 {# T) M# o	• 1984 Toyota Van & x# f+ Y+ Y2 {5 \| P( M
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE U. O [( W0 j2 K	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ' `1 U9 H! W2 A4 m: ]. U S6 t
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner k/ ~7 h6 s3 o' G; X7 s$ H	• 1984 Toyota Van LE - O' C. v4 ~$ m! E. Z
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE * m( m0 w1 I9 K) I1 y/ C9 e	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE / v0 A% @( `% o2 m1 N
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX9 p# z( K! A9 U! U( p+ e( u" k7 M	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 ' A& Y% n4 I' h; ^
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR56 Y6 I0 V5 m! x0 [	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX 0 a! Z$ O0 C0 K! H
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE + }( M: ~. K4 p. p; T; x) z	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE ) k7 w7 I' \|! d4 c
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE7 j) C9 k+ f" T/ @* C$ r }$ m	• 1983 Toyota Supra $ X0 p- O" O4 Q- Q3 S7 L: s
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma # Z* P% n# Y: [& z# a+ I	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser + q$ s7 C* M& ~, e: ~6 C+ m0 D
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL* U' n, d; Q0 ?1 @' {	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX % l9 y- m" G( a9 s" K2 }
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE - _7 J9 \# r) c$ n" K	• 1983 Toyota Cressida ( T; w+ k3 h4 V
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 W9 c! v# U+ w2 o* J3 r	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT6 [3 l% W2 \1 j. z- n& Z
• 1998 Toyota T-100 0 v. G# I4 h1 h$ v! E; g	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser % b% Y+ P; }! C$ Q/ F
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 9 C& u# u4 j2 I* X	• 1982 Toyota Cressida ' c& P4 J: K7 i' P: K
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE 2 ^. n7 U f9 R& ]	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX4 }* b" a0 ]9 J3 a
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 - `! E w7 T3 z: D6 ?( I8 ]) x	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST3 h( y$ [7 M6 e* }
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR55 ~& B6 S8 x7 a* T	• 1982 Toyota Tercel % O# K J' V, L+ D
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX . O% F2 }8 N+ ^" q6 T+ x( Q	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 5 m& f& Y8 Y* h4 K' i' i
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma / A# a! R1 i( {0 l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel - S) W0 ^# ]# h$ M- A
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS * e+ a, L0 Z+ m/ o	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 ; @' B5 K! g! ~7 h0 Z. `! W1 G
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX' O# f E; R7 m, }	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 a0 ~! u( F+ O" L
• 1997 Toyota T-100 / u+ Y( q' k$ S$ l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX / f4 o7 s$ V0 G1 j$ X( e) g
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited3 d7 A& F+ n+ `+ }& n' F	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 9 @: a7 m( E4 c+ k+ t
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE' k8 R$ {$ K H4 {( D2 X	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT$ \/ M0 ^* g8 O3 J& C, P* x
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 # Y7 s( }5 M8 e1 {: z	• 1980 Toyota Corolla + P' }! `. y; w! l8 `
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 9 v7 Y/ D# L2 I3 n' \+ y4 a	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser * Q# h, E( r. S! B6 E' l
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR53 Z0 _) ]+ T/ O+ H	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe, o: {7 I- g# m/ @1 a. b2 ]2 T
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL" q; T6 h6 v0 S5 g2 c r	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX ! ?* L' [4 q* q- j4 W# }$ b- _! P
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE ( s) p Q' v2 E1 L	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST $ n: v2 n" m+ z. H
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner . m/ r+ M; O T' e* b	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury 0 f. n& S) w0 m: U" U
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE 7 N' n# Q' w: x& L* b4 z	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 4 A$ f& ~; ?9 o, G
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE # [7 _3 b' @: o% w: ^	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR56 Q; \|( ^: g. b) X# r2 \|2 O
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX , V4 O0 z% A& B/ C6 @: x	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe7 z& A/ Y2 o. w1 B1 ~- V3 ?/ S
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE # ^2 R# A1 ]7 y# G( K. U9 \	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR53 E6 C$ j7 M% G2 a& r7 ` q( `8 w
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR53 W7 q( L G( w5 I

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
2 f0 _ m( $ }$ S! _) nToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE q; C0 _8 d0 h+ s4 O1 C) f! j: Q
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
( t5 @( $ l3 Q&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
! `2 l r( g7 ?' O% e% z; O% hApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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X0 e/ t7 ^; j1 y. G% N% i% \4 S佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
. ], \8 R7 T6 u4 {! L% ]; h/ l: a$ j2 d, l: n
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
; w$ a- q8 Q5 @0 o1 X- z! H/ F1 V! G. B' q9 F% v: z: a- L
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
! p9 ?4 B9 \$ K; C! v% e2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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