說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
; y& n; a. Q( ^* ?* o1 p学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
/ O8 _: ^- |4 Y- Z楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 0 W/ |% }6 M' z$ L4 P f
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 * \8 A% o% \/ v& Q

" p( X- ~8 g, E看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE6 s7 O8 ]+ k# R j; m# a% P: S	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE ) _7 i, J6 `3 n, F& g
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport% r6 b p, {* n' M	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE# J/ v; \. D: W2 Q# B
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE: n# H' j( @" f3 D	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX . r, h* m: B& T0 c2 L3 ^
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ' o$ {+ F* y5 `7 ^; ^	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR55 ^: k1 C* X/ b
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE, o" G, Q; R: {	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 3 S8 l4 s( v. V
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE & ?5 S' q: h1 `. p	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX/ P1 G+ J' \& E
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid9 F" E( M4 d' O; M	• 1996 Toyota Corolla * S# o9 P6 \4 x& d
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited & d1 p4 c0 h8 G9 G x	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ' Z2 J: U' z7 M$ r8 s+ m+ U$ t
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE B( k. z# a4 S	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE: {$ p; @/ R. L" E6 t5 Y: o. s9 v
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE ! [% N( b1 A) B( A	• 1996 Toyota T-100 / ?0 ^* _$ F5 K( T3 G
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE% q5 d2 Z7 o. J$ Y( C0 {) I; J	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST " d9 ` j3 A3 l& r/ C1 W
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 6 Q" \|& K$ A* F	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited 0 }; Y. y0 ~* A9 Z* q- e0 L
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 2 p9 [- k8 \|0 Z& \1 `# `	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX % ^; L/ d4 C+ i8 @3 R, \, j; r
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE0 W e. t) F& S# N	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5+ k) F7 v* s- \|. t# w
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 5 d5 [* K/ Z+ e' M) H	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ! n2 D L( A9 I- A8 { `9 N
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 N ~. s. q# M1 }9 \|$ Y	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX4 O& z7 @/ z2 z/ C
• 2006 Toyota Tundra & r9 k% a. F$ k) [8 F( O0 H	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT! C5 Z( X8 \|$ B! j# ]) D
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS 9 R6 A# N" K$ c& f6 G- e0 S	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 6 W# O$ b! h. h0 I j6 e1 \
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL ) ~! T) g; o4 C	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner $ C" R$ H" R+ h" q; O
• 2006 Toyota Prius & z7 G) a: s% B* k7 g, ]: G	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX ( \2 R/ U, s- I) \|
• 2006 Toyota Camry # f U. H: s9 g8 ^ F2 _7 P	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 3 R7 b8 L1 W4 p5 x2 H4 p. J
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring L8 p5 b) a% ?	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE- e, f6 m _$ W7 Z0 ] o
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 7 E' f' U$ c8 ?/ Y( Q$ @+ `	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 8 m, [* }, f5 v3 p
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 7 F9 o3 ?& u0 U6 ~7 J4 c; Y	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton : _8 Q% Z ~ [
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited/ M" C. D7 b/ M$ f T9 ?! L1 e9 m& c	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 " ^( q& ~' Y4 _& b
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 6 L# \|$ d7 b4 v4 A& a	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4 \1 c7 z7 g* R/ o
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 " W4 ]) V$ K H3 n- w$ Y5 A% u	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX $ w9 P+ X/ v2 ?8 `2 B) ]" S9 H
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S5 `+ h9 J( R* B+ {; G7 n6 g	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX# s+ V4 J% f3 r. \% R, T( z0 K/ S# E" o
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited / s9 t4 @' W& v& }. K	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + f9 c& p" O3 v5 o. }
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE' _7 F: ~' L. e4 l% U9 {	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 3 ]* V4 b9 \( a g
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS, A: P0 C7 s0 F$ N. D% l& A	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ( A3 x O4 E! \|# }! Z8 Q' }
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner v' v$ L& I( H6 r( P	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX . f( v$ ^9 k( U
• 2005 Toyota Tundra ) w- J# D! u6 v% C; W	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE! _! y1 H: c0 V) h, ?" J% T
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 3 G) c7 i; w/ q+ N	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX : T& c1 A% w, {4 T& M
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . ~1 V9 ^9 x6 y	• 1995 Toyota T-100 , x) `6 \|6 q4 z" Z& V
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited % o8 v5 o [9 @' q8 D3 @	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma - F5 b- i( C9 m/ f! u
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL' E: K5 V2 Q* O0 c( O	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE $ \8 p. W3 l+ X: x E8 Q, Y
• 2005 Toyota Camry ! F: B; v8 Z Q) a; p0 T4 p	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5" ]8 {/ q' v2 g9 R8 Y- w
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring 9 z' C$ o; Q. W' u9 e$ O	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX$ [) v; g7 N+ r7 l+ f: T. O5 q# _
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE6 }7 Y9 K+ j6 M9 M) b' d	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX " ]1 d" w6 \| h4 J; _. H( }, O
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE ' c# B3 i* O$ W6 t' B	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX ; Z% e' J4 `! r* F H
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 5 B' d7 }9 w/ ]8 t4 J& Y4 C	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) S9 J( P3 P$ h# M) S g
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma % P1 r% x0 r3 _* {+ G8 q# T	• 1994 Toyota Pickup , o$ S0 R( Q' s/ g0 d
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S 0 h4 ^7 h' w7 ]$ T* o: R" f	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE. w& {$ U% D, y- ~# ~
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE& Q: B" T, Y; @7 g	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 8 _' O3 r! S9 A
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited. u- ~* v5 [. Q1 p/ _) H4 O	• 1994 Toyota T-100 $ f: C' h& G2 R# [
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 9 J4 f( _5 C% G2 w2 r. D1 C	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5$ b' m( i: ^6 L% f% n6 G
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE + J' j/ L- b+ [; o& f) c: u	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE3 l& I8 b: x x, r# k( H
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 5 K# v- O& t! c- w9 j a	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX5 p$ v' O; ]: }% N; r8 x
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS , q" s$ \|, `; X3 B0 Z	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 A' [5 G; X% T1 y
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 2 i0 i2 R t7 ^	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE & ^" t2 k" v9 ~8 G' R1 G/ H
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE3 p+ \|" G+ t, Y	• 1994 Toyota Corolla $ B+ A; y. n, P3 Y( Z: k7 Y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited! z# m$ l* G7 \5 i. f$ M	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton$ v6 F% B* B* Z$ S* V
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 9 A8 P7 H- Z" X1 c	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE 1 b2 \|* q0 \. @5 x0 E
• 2005 Toyota Prius 6 ^/ V/ K) F' _, _! l, G	• 1993 Toyota Corolla ' j. E1 o3 U' j& Z/ W" e
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 9 c. `+ m N. ?% z, \|$ ]; r, B	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton 3 d- _5 d; j* m- K/ V
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE U& t3 z7 e5 s( x	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 " H1 m- S/ M4 _8 Q# e5 h. w B
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited3 [, s+ K0 I4 U+ M	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX ' N+ U: U9 l3 j- O, Q* y" q
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ' I: R3 L1 @7 V5 `$ [	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX + l! N3 k) C) B! D
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 5 y+ H) f4 A1 ?	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX \- k2 \1 h& p& j& ]# h
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE: a0 Y& H/ ~* y k	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ) d$ k9 O2 k' ]8 {# }
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE# M2 i6 r% a5 D2 h; N; C	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ; L) v- A/ F3 k- N6 s! X" }
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE4 Z. \( p0 X4 {4 P8 }+ c3 \	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE5 Y/ F! A. p. k5 Q9 {1 U1 \|: `1 E
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited- N' t, N* \|0 ]2 w* J3 N	• 1993 Toyota Pickup k* \3 e/ ~& n( E
• 2004 Toyota Prius # A3 p g" p8 J. L	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE ' {6 G% u* l6 ~7 X
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 9 V& O: b4 m9 g( v" C9 H. I	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE 7 N) ]- q" R8 W# z% j# a* Q6 j1 k2 H
• 2004 Toyota Tundra # {( Q* Y! E& [1 {+ A% J	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR55 L( C8 q5 @: n5 j! q# O# ^5 L
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE" [5 C3 {4 X7 e! e/ f	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 o) n8 J8 ?8 H5 p
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited - z& L6 Y9 _. U$ [" T5 H& v	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE , f! W* f. X0 P) {
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited8 `' f6 ~0 L1 ]+ p& t) q	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 9 M3 v4 s1 a# f! V+ n' N* k/ c
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE1 ~# y& J! M" G4 c1 Y# C& U5 a9 e	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX2 S, e# i/ l+ D3 {- ?
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE " S# P; [4 w; G& r	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE M% I6 Q) `$ Y7 [3 W" R* Y: \|. v( }
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 6 ~; [8 ^2 [; w+ w0 O	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac ) Q5 R% f2 ~' p$ s, d
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ! e0 V) \|/ \|. @# G. k. J8 h	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton " B2 Z" A9 b) d$ z/ h1 H
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 9 G$ c; Y( S+ E7 m	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE* ~2 u% y4 ~ D# I/ z" `' x
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner# R) w9 X( i$ e- R	• 1992 Toyota Corolla . f% ], D+ H9 Q" h
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S; U k% x4 l$ C @; @* F8 s' M	• 1992 Toyota MR2 " s5 P0 S9 T3 t% S; F& w
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner4 _* I3 c/ E4 Y& T' f+ d	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 6 M) l) A z/ Q! T: x! T/ ^5 t
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5, J* j4 E6 U- v) Y7 j	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX% \|: a" E" k) `/ _) v6 I+ g$ y9 g
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS& K* b' v# o K: T) n1 N4 z	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac $ b( w& m, z6 p y; J; X# ?/ M
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner # e( a; y8 D/ \# a6 J	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S ' h( ]5 h' c9 Z	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX ' k& v! V7 m( u3 i& S5 h) c3 S
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ) a E, S2 F2 R* U! k9 @/ E	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5( W( H; a- F8 }: b5 G' F. J+ B
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & A% `9 X; ?8 L* F( m	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser # y9 X! p. H3 W0 O' o0 w0 K1 K
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5) Y0 r/ \|$ p- t& P	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof* `, Y: G2 w$ U% K+ ~6 S
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited : d" p. P0 O+ ^1 j6 W	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE% O% a2 J, i$ ~3 j/ l8 b( b, l
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE - E& g* a! R0 t- g$ S0 L	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5) m- Z, u3 q* q0 w" C- ^) H+ h
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT ( ~7 c8 ?& X5 p% E+ [( @) F/ ?* h1 ]	• 1991 Toyota Camry * U% J) y+ p( O) Y: Z0 Y1 \2 x
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE # c( A) q( s: L	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 x" I* ?3 l. z9 M
• 2003 Toyota Highlander j! j" M L+ X, \% `	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 1 X4 G) X4 `3 {. J' j( ^& c4 `
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma + }2 A& J& \: U6 {% g8 C	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX . Z5 v E/ a: V3 [6 n# v
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 8 `+ k# w: \# H7 m6 @	• 1991 Toyota MR2 1 j" t0 i9 f. F; D x( S' M( y
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE _) c e3 t7 U	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 ( {$ k8 B j' \|
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited + [2 ?9 l4 K( I9 V' h. w% S% t	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 3 x: A' d! A- e( j% N4 W
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE- m& n: k4 o; B1 ?& [& y	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac % e8 I$ i1 n' A; [% U; ~( {* L6 E4 l5 ?
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 C, b! M6 A; g. B( c9 _2 [( ~+ t	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac , L4 o/ ?* A! ~7 F+ U4 o/ S( t
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE $ [3 a1 s/ G! h O& b	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof; t2 `% v3 j* E. c2 Y/ _
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE : j4 l4 T! W+ w	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX % w S. U' ~ }, S
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited- G2 k7 r, ?0 X* T	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE & J) Q, @ W& C. z* c
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 \|( b4 B8 f7 O7 K" F	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 1 m# F9 Z' ~% ~) _0 G$ Z
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited $ ~) D( V# R3 P% n0 Z2 C	• 1990 Toyota Pickup : ] ~# v/ y2 a" g% x) w: D! }
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 8 F' o5 ~, i H0 x; ?	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE \+ y$ v3 T* K6 l) `2 W5 s: k4 m
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE8 F0 ~% M: a% V1 c0 _6 v	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 + x& h# D! ?( b4 L
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited* S% k; ~4 e: A' w4 R: A4 F0 e7 B	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ' @( K4 I1 \|( c7 I
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 1 e; Y) b! a! }8 w	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT , o& M/ o! x7 M
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT/ Y$ f- _) }) K S8 T T0 q" L	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base ) N* J2 _& h# a$ t% H
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner8 t: b% \' I2 E# f8 r. F/ ?	• 1990 Toyota Camry : V) I4 }8 Z* H; [( T- ]
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S5 u) e. L& v& _7 w& i	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST3 ]4 j8 f1 y* r/ Z6 V7 d' q/ A
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 5 e. g' \|7 O/ Z	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX, l! m0 r: Z1 q! k* i, w
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner' ` E% J5 H! V8 X g- ?	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ! p2 _' p9 m3 j
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR52 @3 C9 G8 e/ j	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR56 h3 ? d+ I8 O1 Z
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! y3 E/ ?# j% N7 t0 t# Q% p	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS' i) V9 i* b" A) p$ B" l2 _& e
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 1 n+ e! g0 d5 z7 S' {% {	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ( T2 ~2 @3 T1 z1 v; \|4 S
• 2002 Toyota Prius 9 z* Z% [( T1 b4 \|+ ?. D6 N+ R$ e	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton# @/ b* e* Q5 w1 b, x
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 v f9 M' B: z7 X: n, g, P	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX ) t3 Y7 X4 O# \|; R
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS6 D$ U5 ] R' R( K, v+ @	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac/ \- Z2 ^3 L3 f+ w
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE 4 R3 P6 t$ g7 L	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac+ D) M L8 o* T* y4 A
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma & H6 [8 r6 a5 w9 [. @	• 1990 Toyota Tercel _, D( K' G7 W- ]3 r
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ' q$ {1 @) D. M# N; E0 B	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac5 Y8 j/ n& U- E9 T
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE! k! h5 b$ I5 _$ S# }	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac' n" e$ H+ p' _4 Y
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE & r# G6 a" [8 z2 T' \|. z' F% Z3 _	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger4 F, r+ K9 h$ T8 [# h
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL: ~. e6 ], h+ M% l	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base T* g8 N( @* Y( p# y7 t2 v# X
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited% D8 ^! }+ @) Y. t) ?- E. R8 y3 A	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 B4 M& G* Y" E; b
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 1 z* N! a! `, P& D6 z- b/ Q	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser D, f1 W" ~+ L+ N, P5 N& q' Y
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE: b5 q+ v# ^+ G& Q	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE 1 \|* ?" L6 R+ m- p' S8 Z( ^$ w
• 2001 Toyota Prius 4 n& j! x2 h4 ?# c	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX% b6 e6 D/ O- z. Q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 1 ~* v) B9 @: A/ H, q	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton y: G5 }, U4 z
• 2001 Toyota Tundra % Y% n' B l2 R' P) C/ Z1 z	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger . u5 U% y- ?) p3 i' q
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 1 d2 n: Z$ c+ i5 u7 w	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX " y- h/ ?5 d* V3 s: O7 j }9 T
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited+ I" e4 b) ?+ M. t	• 1989 Toyota Camry . ]4 m7 Y+ K2 `
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 @4 S; v( O) e8 z( s) L	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 5 x7 _* {2 {* K' @ d' H
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 4 V0 @. f3 l s8 }	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX . t/ t$ t" ]! q. k
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 0 {. ~ s4 w% I) q0 N Q2 y9 L	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 2 F- C$ `) M) m) {( X* n9 s- w
• 2001 Toyota ECHO % O* x- l$ q3 g' o5 L	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ a% i1 {8 `- B
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS / ]- V7 ]. s6 z+ s( m. J5 ]	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger8 Q! B+ S2 \7 \# P
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 9 ^; A; _) l) u( y$ }) X	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ2 _: R' r7 H Q4 Z% B( p
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5; M1 c2 j: U: T0 ~$ a- f/ A	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 7 l+ Z @$ F# F, _! {" I
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner" i' u9 l- d9 ?	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX & K2 K6 `$ p& L, A3 m
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ / @% W# h1 \|0 s8 ~- \! m
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 2 \. I% K' V: c0 [" b p1 D" C9 g) a	• 1988 Toyota Camry 8 @$ b; l% U$ c' U
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 [. g6 B5 B: B* d/ U9 Z+ G5 @	• 1988 Toyota Pickup : w7 Y: g( u; N) `' r8 Y1 V
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR54 b c7 h, h9 a4 `' y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger + x9 ` c4 X( ]& u h
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 3 b* [+ v* N/ B5 y6 b: b, }	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX j$ S" @5 o }( M: U
• 2001 Toyota Highlander ( U8 k7 c: m: v2 v2 ~	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 R) z1 F4 W- {8 C4 c
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 2 S' O3 p3 G5 X2 ^( L! Q8 W! H: _: M	• 1988 Toyota Van DX % q* @# g8 N; g6 ?
• 2000 Toyota ECHO / \3 e7 F7 `) [) \|	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger $ S+ x# ]6 ]. ~- N& L h
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma " L4 P V7 w: w+ h' V- E6 H	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ! a7 S5 f: B5 s+ h* J3 n! K8 f
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT+ K4 b2 [1 Q" m( X9 G* R	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE8 z9 O1 t0 O. s$ K
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE) l* q/ F8 n& a7 A	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window5 C, Q5 M+ g) y% I
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 + a) g/ s. g& s& D) x7 Q	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 0 ^7 Z3 l2 u* Y2 H- t5 V6 Y
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + o) l9 z! C1 A+ D	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser : o- `' N' t6 H# N8 D; G( e( N
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5# o/ ]+ _: v; w, f" t	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 - Q+ ~8 b4 H9 l! [. F9 _. _/ t7 o/ W) r
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited - L# `: d, z- `2 A	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger5 k" ?! R+ l7 j& `
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE! H' o' M4 G2 ]	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B: q& I T; f l* G
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS" U; v! `$ N5 z- K1 ^: q	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac1 \|5 f$ U$ w, h7 t
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE & @/ \! M5 \( l e# j	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger $ C% d1 @0 {4 a6 O$ \|
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara e3 Y# L+ b1 I& U. \|+ R	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5$ v" } o' _6 B( d1 N# B& `
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited7 b4 c N/ f/ Q+ ~' t" M	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 4 o9 Q& Z Q1 }- M! f
• 2000 Toyota Tundra ! \|, O6 n/ @* b5 {1 C4 H6 m	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 8 ^0 A# D ~2 ~! U& W
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS : \7 R, l' { H7 G' ~, r, E	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 S1 T5 a- \|, ^( z& F
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 8 O, C- y6 v- g% t* n5 J ^	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 9 N: l/ }' _" L" J: ]1 I
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 9 \4 H. b; a% a7 c6 J% w9 g0 D5 E	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE$ ?$ p8 T: \|5 b. q; P
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 0 W+ O! \0 O, Y) q	• 1987 Toyota Van DX ! {5 m/ v: { ?
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE ! _% ?/ q/ `" A' N	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window! y; R7 k' W) I" ]1 l
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ g) ~) U3 P, V2 L! y	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ' e9 k: l, J4 @5 b1 G; u8 N
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE ( j- n/ v9 o4 j; l; a9 O$ L2 c8 {2 q	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5% x" t+ \& t0 R! ]+ C; \|
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL * y9 H# W: \|8 i# D; r- m* ~	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX " m0 ~. \|' m/ A- T6 a2 `, X- {
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 1 V$ f9 E1 ^7 u0 Z	• 1987 Toyota Tercel / J! \5 e) \+ ~
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE ' }$ q5 C3 J- U! }/ Z	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX( e k" z- h% h: \|+ F8 W) v
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! E- R& p# d2 n! b- V% t5 m; d	• 1987 Toyota Van LE4 \|( z! D+ G% {7 N6 X9 M$ j# L
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE" T9 o; v( i. d+ v) R	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 3 \|2 h1 \- O/ L7 `8 d' Y6 S) m N# U
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE+ I+ y, b4 K& p+ B. M	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX+ q- @7 e) j* t
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma : D$ _& [7 k* ]0 b7 z& n	• 1987 Toyota Pickup # U v" ~# K/ `, B% Z, E. F9 I
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS : P t( g4 q$ a& v8 J. o8 u	• 1986 Toyota Van LE: p5 Z- z/ l3 c& {/ g* t% t
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE + M% h* W2 t( r7 C3 C- d	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser " @+ _* D6 `- V8 d4 J8 o1 x
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # D$ [" w' ?7 b- c2 B8 v; _	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel : V4 x5 n0 K. g6 }
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 + X" g' M! C* Z- a7 `: j9 v	• 1986 Toyota Van DX7 V5 i2 C& G. y0 V
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited: j9 k) `$ d9 n% g/ \|: Z- m6 d2 B	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window : h* D/ e E# `$ R* {0 i' ?, H
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE W& W2 D4 ?) b/ F8 ?	• 1985 Toyota Van 0 B/ h3 L9 {- [ p% h; s- A$ S* z5 H4 W
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE ) B# \ ]; l4 S* N4 L8 R7 J( ^8 u	• 1985 Toyota Van LE% P% K1 [9 K; M5 a
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL 8 a9 z6 N% u2 X* M	• 1985 Toyota Van DX4 x# h. B) m4 O- F, k
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE ! ^ J* f$ c( H	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser & j2 U! x$ s* C
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited! W9 J! G% N+ z+ f1 Z: A" g2 g	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ' y% u/ r& N! Q5 E f" x
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE2 V- U9 V4 N# W( c	• 1984 Toyota Supra , _2 `) t" w# I7 h4 v
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE , Q0 }: p6 O0 S	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX * ]/ q D& z8 Y8 f4 r7 N; ]; K3 \
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE - k( q7 ?- Z- M, j" f5 E Z# ?* u	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ' p q5 A" ^$ \3 f8 z5 c5 B
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited% ~/ v! A3 `. B& `( d( V. ^	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 0 k8 e* J& Y8 R
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS : O. D/ Q L+ n# ~# U# q	• 1984 Toyota Van 9 l/ A- S9 E* J
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 0 A/ \|6 q7 t. t# ~( j	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE$ s7 S' _5 s& ~8 s1 B8 o. u4 D+ O5 t
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 0 b- w8 u9 V8 W5 ]; D1 r! w7 _ _6 K$ t+ x	• 1984 Toyota Van LE+ X I3 z: D7 d4 r: w; D8 o0 d0 C4 I
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 9 t* s1 n0 I* F) c8 R	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE ) d. E/ }# x$ F* b1 e! m
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX Y3 L8 I: h3 T" P	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR56 @. E, h3 ~5 M( t6 A- d
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & u; E2 E6 T4 z! [; Z1 ~" O9 b	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX & G- x y) F& ~% D0 {
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE% N5 c& \|6 A4 ^+ \4 \|' o6 I1 `: \0 R	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE r E9 M; }# [& f, c1 U% @1 ?
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE. g! c% m/ H6 s' {4 J. R	• 1983 Toyota Supra 1 R4 D/ a6 I& K1 M
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ; p4 e: ~2 G; t) D" z	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser * I! n) h& ?+ u8 z
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL3 {3 `4 N2 x! \|1 C	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX % w0 l9 m% b) e& y5 `
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE7 ]- ~4 q J% E	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 0 N) K7 m' \/ [6 b
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " Y0 ~$ ]) x& f7 q% V2 p	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT . [- x6 x( g' G4 j
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ! \|0 Z- ^- v) \6 b8 T0 V! W	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 S, D3 I# E$ D" f [* G$ V$ J
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 3 N# T* }7 \: j- K' J+ n5 n	• 1982 Toyota Cressida $ d2 \|4 x# E0 i3 g# p/ L
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE% k0 R; J5 Z9 {2 a$ C	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX * H m! x3 k( k0 e X/ B
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ) @/ E- s8 f7 }+ q	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 1 T2 P- U f- o1 q3 I( f. H
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR59 D! i. T5 \9 \|. _+ W+ D	• 1982 Toyota Tercel + U. y8 o0 ^/ }1 w
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX ) \% v& Z) ^ I5 ?	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 + v! z# B$ u% V! e1 k' b5 ]0 M
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma & g& ]7 S" \|7 `& N1 _	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 0 K9 x- N' D2 w: B: X8 O
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS7 l/ q# K- p9 J, D; v	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5$ d# x5 E. j) b# A0 ~- G
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX+ t; Y* ]) D( u u	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser & u3 W! H& \|. _! s* A- c
• 1997 Toyota T-100 5 Q3 j: I. }& M' M0 }6 l	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX " k) {' f! E/ v- v5 \) O
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited% G5 H/ I, F( }. }( h) ~	• 1981 Toyota Cressida : \1 u' G6 {) R8 A( Y1 Z4 q
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE + P3 i# y1 ~0 w3 T. S# r m	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT) P* I/ K- r5 d \' ^
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 3 K% \. ]3 b/ e. r3 t	• 1980 Toyota Corolla " ]0 R: i# u- J8 n: }8 m
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ' _( \7 S% x! ?4 c5 u$ V* ?8 S! y	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser " X5 [1 C9 d6 l3 h
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 * m, L6 w0 G& o9 }" k	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe' F* B1 [7 M% Q5 j# s
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX# d7 K& D. R& l: o
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE3 V" J: y4 j' `4 q	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST 6 B, f; D' E. \|! h+ h2 G3 F$ }
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 8 z/ \- O5 J' Z+ u	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury7 [3 d6 v8 c( _5 O! g3 A; d6 ]
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE4 U4 i6 i4 C+ D0 Q5 t	• 1980 Toyota Tercel , b. R6 K- C1 v# F2 t( Z
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 5 J7 ~! b6 H8 o' ~. x	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 4 m( U& s% a7 ?8 D8 _! O% j) \! g
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX % D( F- e! G- s1 `: ?# N	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe + z. T: _/ ~( n' _4 @! ]
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE& a. k7 j7 Q6 \	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR52 L! \|( W% h6 B: Y( x
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' I$ w# p9 T/ O6 d

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ! b3 s6 ?6 a4 S
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：6 \8 b8 W7 b- ?" B; [2 y- I9 R
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
: x" X' i' y& P2 }* U0 h• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
' h. \) P. ^+ ^! P0 R&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
, R; P! v6 O) s, f( y6 V: Y, ?' {April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。% o* t/ j' E# R, M. T
: p% r) x4 M" p7 J3 r' q4 c2 j
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：) _+ p( A4 K& u! W
6 Q& y* K+ o( e/ Q( G/ D6 P# v
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
; ?: @9 r* o) ]/ w N( k G3 W# R2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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