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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞5 q, J% q" S9 m* v

. }; c4 j& T- L# f# w9 o9 O3 K. eBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
/ p8 R$ r8 ^' C+ A/ b) kClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?": M0 _6 Z* @; d3 g' v( }6 ?
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).! z, S, U% q* V3 }; z# J
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
3 }% ]9 [5 ~" N- W# J上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?& g7 u) I. }% a
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:+ q0 F9 w; k1 |% a3 S) h. z8 c

2 u6 Z# y5 y4 [* f: G. d4 OAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
/ h1 O1 M9 O2 V+ ?* N9 }She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,0 v3 K7 n% M) s% G5 I& d; a$ G
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
0 A8 I! K& z; kto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.( ~2 b8 a* i; b- W2 S
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.) `! q# x3 R- B
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection# m; p& W6 b8 e- s9 t- h
if we demand He leave us alone?"! _0 v0 _1 k; G( x# M8 L5 Q
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
2 Z$ R' A# s0 H$ p9 \; o, Y只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
* g( ?+ I$ Q9 V9 ^" x不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。# G3 ^0 P' i5 O( Y
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。$ e' r! z# Z% t5 `! [$ l
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,8 f8 V" ]2 p: a: o6 }/ b( e
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』6 @& q! f" r+ f8 Y
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.& [* i5 M6 {4 E8 U
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,! f$ O( h4 ?7 j! t
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our# A2 ^, y! S2 P& ]
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
5 }3 k- R0 U* ?/ r! A  d6 Yschool...
6 l5 n8 K" ^) F, K  bthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
7 ]9 {8 t* ^# I/ W+ A# Z( t- ?and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.' e* \1 f, @3 S+ h" Y) e  y
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,( X* C7 e6 Q0 W' r1 n- ^9 M
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士. n: {2 q2 G! G. |
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
2 v% X+ T6 n/ r" [, }' A+ E6 d最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
8 e; p# ^: H+ T8 c- z要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
* g2 \+ }! \" U- E* vwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
, H' m3 i7 [5 {8 [and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed  n- ?! B' B$ P7 V$ _. R# _+ P, W
suicide)
& @/ d9 _: \2 H, H6 sWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.# o8 f: R1 c4 m3 a! W/ a
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
1 q$ @8 {" p. C我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,- b; q$ [0 r2 K& y
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊- i% g( A( G6 H: c
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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2 R! k9 u/ i# k# F% hThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our1 ~& R  N& l& T. m  h
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
9 k( ^  n+ l, P4 yin this school better touch a student when they misbehave; Q* m2 g) `$ B& N
because we don 't want any bad publicity,% N) p( O1 f$ o* y& }
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
( ^" r" }# l3 m5 z5 Dbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
9 W( o2 T: C% ~* p4 \etc.). And we said OK.
3 M6 T0 w# x+ f, n然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,  x/ o( T3 Y4 R6 A8 {
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,/ A* p5 o, i2 Z0 N8 V2 k
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
8 x& x# ^& f; R4 U  K9 i更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),- H+ G' X  z! ^* N7 V& M4 c
而大家同意了。, g5 `! v2 K# Q) V& y* b( `7 O! X

7 i5 @8 C+ J3 z5 }Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,# E# c  _: H5 i" U& Q
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.' Y  L/ i6 Z, d) ~& S  e+ Z& O4 O
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys- ~* n0 V3 S" E% B* ^- A
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms0 r) k( ]- e1 O7 N
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,3 A: J8 Z, D- Y# ?0 V# W
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we% }0 O; O: W$ C  G* A* ]$ a
said OK.7 B; J1 |4 [+ D. V
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,- G- N8 `. i% V! T
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。  N2 E: t( ^8 P4 e. G
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
+ }3 `2 y" y6 ^5 M9 X3 e4 I他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
( H; r4 G% o# S( o6 q- N好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
0 i4 L, K4 N1 l+ B9 ]' g7 k+ ]" T他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。, i( i5 z) P: H8 g4 o

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: K- o/ r- _3 Q8 ?- l6 fThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter/ A* @' f3 l1 r  b! ?4 ]$ E: Z# }: f
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
% ?+ c) t% W: W0 r7 mwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,7 ]7 e8 f2 \& {, t0 O
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
* Z& v9 y; e) j6 U% h$ `. k1 P/ F然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,  ~3 b7 Q" \  `, f' B7 O
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
7 A, g& S! x' S* G4 {6 k任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
) i6 |6 x; P/ u3 b2 r9 G+ H只要我有工作而且經濟看好。& @6 \" G9 B0 k
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
& C5 t4 ]8 R2 S7 B9 X8 Mand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
1 R& `0 B* q5 \/ x; w' f3 o, vof the female body. And we said OK.
+ ^# ]: h( N1 v# i8 E2 {4 Y( ^然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
3 H8 H1 ^& v* K5 |稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
! `* m, O6 D% L# Ppublished pictures of nude children and then further again0 \6 j- {0 c  l; m& x& I
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,9 v$ s- b/ W, e  ^
they're entitled to free speech." f' h% {/ d" R7 V
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,* E7 n' z' R5 ~0 J
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,7 N, _% [9 D: f% _9 |
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
6 `( C3 M- _6 x" I4 Z" p! x3 \that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
5 V4 q6 @/ z  ^; T! I2 Athat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
8 X; V- K. I# ~  W% y# e- a, WAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
' S+ Z) E5 j2 g7 ~" X* mnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.6 ^0 }# r' \; N. |1 H3 j! l
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
) n9 ~. D) t% t3 s不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、. n  h6 ^8 a0 \, Y+ F! O
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
, c  z- K% e: f. j( u  \2 p那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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: N! `* p$ v  I( I; U- F) {Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
/ T' K8 v8 x* e0 U  Gwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
6 B+ k) _' Z" U) R4 }! Ato kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,9 B6 ]6 t" w* ~5 ~
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
# W: `# c. F5 D  z! _. W" cI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
4 H/ X+ r5 Z2 K4 v( O( }" _2 \/ l: n# [如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
% ]% G' D! a' G# T' i" G) z3 X7 R為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
& B( x9 c6 C3 b$ \( N為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?1 S. d. x6 P1 a: _
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。6 I! N" b( N1 j2 j8 W$ m
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。% ]! i) _/ ~2 \6 M' \0 n9 [, J

4 c3 G6 A# [  |% b# _) YFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder, X* X5 ^. I1 s
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers) G$ I& C' b; y  @- o2 F: s* x* `+ ?
say, but question what the Bible says.) [' j# O0 f( m2 O, [
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。6 x( R9 O2 `( L9 {+ O- R' N+ d! ]
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。+ x1 Z  l. V# x2 k- [$ [0 b5 \; H5 p9 `

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& p0 [& ~2 m. o8 w' KFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
( O0 M, u# c5 ?+ kwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
& K. o' O6 T# [+ {" k7 x1 w' lpeople think twice about sharing.; e9 D( Q5 M# u% ]  A
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;( b+ O" w( `& A
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
7 `$ Z: [! I( u1 A3 o人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
8 U2 ^3 A& E: r- }4 N+ Qthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
6 w7 w9 g% I* e% L/ b: A3 ?in the school and workplace., y, m! t6 S1 |9 F
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章& p% H! h  S" A4 s# Y
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;7 ]% @6 @8 h: r" c) a/ O6 ^
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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! T5 h9 B& w7 v! X" F$ WAre you laughing?
) h; [4 _) |+ w1 t6 Q% \! a你笑了嗎?
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/ S  p4 L( u* R; o  NFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it9 Z( g# t2 ~- r/ `; ~4 |. l
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,/ V, \! c/ Y4 T7 i! c; v
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.; C: s% C1 `; w. T
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
$ Z1 D; _  f, \" _: Z/ u3 ~% Qthan what God thinks of us.$ s, g' D* p1 a
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
( E& [1 \, R) J: R4 z) T" T因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,8 h2 Q8 [" z7 I" p. C
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
! [3 X4 H. @/ o; A; b9 c% w可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
* {0 ?) _$ ]5 [0 C1 o  p而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。# k% }/ \& K. h2 R
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, N( e$ Q' d8 C6 [Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...' C$ X, n' E/ f, @. l3 J4 S
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't: r& q$ g. C8 {  _1 E
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!7 k0 B7 \' J8 p8 W+ l/ A; y6 `4 q
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
/ e' |6 r- G4 R, u! k若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
% w; E. X; _* s# [2 l2 p$ X但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,2 \# i: e' e) R* p3 j2 d
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.2 j5 g8 Q9 ~) i+ P
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. }7 U7 u; s& P, L上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
理袁律师事务所
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。& c! H7 A" q8 X0 O: h( L
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
; }+ t3 |4 a4 U3 I0 ~7 D) u4 S) r5 i有道理啊。
大型搬家
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
7 ]/ E2 P  l0 o  v. n# R, _$ Y这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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