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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞+ C) b& x: r; n0 W* R  z
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
! p; Z. r  v# @: h- v' T" [6 LClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
- C. N; M) i, _! m. C0 N(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
# m- a: _5 J' ?5 h+ D" ~葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:" N2 [. E& g9 c, R% h6 Q
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
* d8 ^+ ]0 q/ y2 |她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:. M9 M* f; i! F
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response./ J& U% A  U# S, ]- ^
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
, C  `6 \. p$ c: {1 V1 }- ^but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
- R2 l' u" v: ^& t3 qto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
) `6 i* N. R" i0 g& vAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.: h' D- f& q, S
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection, x: K; Q9 v& F: X9 N9 |
if we demand He leave us alone?"
4 A5 V2 o* u! e2 \『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
  o/ \3 v' O, x6 G3 H/ C只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,9 w- v: D7 Y6 [# ?/ B* v1 v
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。) r# X1 i( l2 E: n$ e! E
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。* Q9 K8 l6 y. \$ H4 b# ~
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,9 J5 l# m* [4 T# z' p& ]
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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5 p- {' Q& f7 z& K- Q, zIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.0 f/ o% o: g/ o' E4 `6 [# a
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,' y! u  O! o- X% @  W' n
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our2 ]& a& N1 q* q9 O: o
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
, h* s) Y# W6 m+ S0 b( t  Wschool...
, o1 \' Q( Q  f, V4 S; O, P: [the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
7 p2 [+ h1 D/ p" @& C8 c, Land love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
+ c6 |( Q! c4 _, |/ |+ Y1 x看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
& \" q- y0 _0 o3 w! w我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士: o* _4 n; T% S; g
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,* b8 v$ _4 @( h2 g. }( j
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
0 W* J' X6 ?* h) T7 |# O要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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) o1 E" }! y& [: M5 j3 G* dThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
7 j5 F& Q$ ~/ {when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
3 t( Y# k, `/ O1 a/ @and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed. O5 U( k& n; o
suicide)
$ Z! H2 E) V. f0 M1 S6 p6 ZWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
5 y$ a* \, c' f* f! _然後Benjamin Spock博士說,! y" |% \& R, N3 o! b+ g
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,5 Y# w3 I0 h  o/ X/ `: Q- u
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
5 x5 S( k: A. ~( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
- P0 S  q0 P7 o3 J5 I7 _children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member1 k6 P0 I4 e8 q5 y
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave. I6 D% O( F4 I
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
7 s+ ^7 f- C7 k1 J7 x; u9 Aand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference* `3 d3 C- ?  v
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
. _2 u- G. Q! a2 U, c9 Uetc.). And we said OK." C- Z# c- r$ E3 n! `6 v# k
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,6 J# F  z$ o" \1 m5 x5 p
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,7 t& |. I6 L1 O$ _, Z' [
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,% y# u& _7 H' ~4 e) ]
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
+ U# N2 c. l3 j6 T- i9 N. T而大家同意了。2 |0 C, S" F1 Q2 _- j
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
& u4 |- c. C3 ^/ q% \3 i1 f$ }/ kand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.% j5 V9 N* G6 l$ E% b- y" s. }) E
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
" n3 e. z3 t' O* G: Sand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms  V( V) @. R! m- _' l* R( d
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,# A) q2 n7 V! n
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
1 f: T$ j2 s4 V% q: w6 Fsaid OK.
( b. u" R7 b8 s2 ]+ A然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,. z/ k$ j0 r% o2 ?# W: K) R" q* i
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。8 U6 G( [; p) x( [
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,. m  C" H* [6 L
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,3 X7 I+ D4 m& u. _# Z
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道2 N% h, k$ K' Q& R
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
3 Q' D; x; F( I" gwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,+ c" @3 k4 [7 ^# ~+ ?) l
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
4 [9 r) \3 L  w4 xdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
% @# q) J0 K+ k然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,$ ^, c& _7 a/ Y' h# i
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,1 C; Y* G: ^. _2 y) A- k1 A0 c8 S
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
. L0 }: k7 [- w- F+ w# F7 `只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
' j& S5 V2 Z% c5 J5 E9 O, Uand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty+ F) O( `6 x9 q+ {/ r% Y& e! l
of the female body. And we said OK.. w8 x% r7 a5 i: k2 Q2 f
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,9 m' ]- l7 c5 p9 P2 U
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。  T8 [" E. E4 U9 C* f6 o

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- I6 r, _: q% @And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and: p! E1 Z1 P& \. {" y
published pictures of nude children and then further again* T# |' a+ \: ?5 W
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
& m. D& P, ~6 H5 q$ J% k* uthey're entitled to free speech., [+ u. H$ l; O1 \$ `$ p
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,+ p- r  [: W3 i# G
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,' Y5 Z& u- x$ w$ [" G  E
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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( J& r! D9 L8 T3 b; Q3 s8 dThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies9 d9 \: @8 M- G7 E1 J
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music  Q# H, G. Y) p8 q
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
5 s: y% U1 K+ I3 f0 X7 V1 X3 `And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
3 T4 T' {7 {( K6 p. Xnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.6 M* ~4 C4 n* \$ z
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
* E6 Y9 m! T3 ?) b0 |- X6 y" J不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
- Z1 X* L1 n! L5 h+ o謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:& M9 h5 W  l" ~
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。5 a3 T! {- E7 [
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4 ?9 j4 u3 C& D. n- f0 E) }Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
. V* j+ ]2 h4 Z! n& E/ e! X1 e( Cwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
( M, v$ j! j3 p, h" ~" l: Dto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
1 k  Y. \: {$ Rif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.0 }" @; K$ S; i& Q, t$ i
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."+ a4 z1 {4 |, o  z7 @; [
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?  u9 N1 x$ W5 o
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
4 k  v( `: ]: |5 O" v0 d為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
+ r2 ?. Z# O' F- l( y0 P( K& R假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
: u6 p( D- @; t' N1 v我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。* S: r" I* ]% d2 p; c+ u
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder/ c4 F) H4 g- t/ G( U% r( c8 C5 ^* L- M
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers# x- u' v! x1 m/ B6 q
say, but question what the Bible says.1 ^$ ~' }7 I/ _( z& I* c
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
0 {5 r. p( [$ F5 q# q: O實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。  w8 l) h# l# ^9 T

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3 C6 K' E2 M1 U3 s2 `Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
: A! W. x- G8 i$ @6 [: owildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
) E: a- X3 t$ Rpeople think twice about sharing.% n1 B1 j$ G0 d+ r+ z0 R" J
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
6 J& m5 g4 \$ s- q( }& y但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,4 D" N* v% c  B/ C) h
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。" O. F' d# N; d: `
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) T$ S3 f1 G8 D+ f4 }Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
8 f/ R5 Y1 [+ D# z1 Ethrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
! S; [7 A6 _2 W/ f+ W* Xin the school and workplace.8 b" V5 `% ~2 }( Y: Q
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
. K; U5 @" f' {& x: v: s- T. J透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
  f; `# W- K, g. [2 Y& v' K. ?而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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% N4 i0 {. o4 Q( b: G. K, bAre you laughing?
8 @% Q" q" c: i+ |, \你笑了嗎?7 U+ P7 P0 y- k9 Q5 k& L" u

6 m7 Y' W1 u, kFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
% T, _1 {% z. tto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,2 F( _- S4 c3 Y6 ^+ V# v
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
# w$ @8 r( T' n9 J! A; z1 BFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us5 E+ p. z& T) R( \" w  v
than what God thinks of us.
6 L/ Z% y: ]0 n. H% X" w: S好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,  H: H. W: |3 E
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
' n; W0 ^! d- H, d% h: u或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。6 W1 h% G0 C+ C1 k( ?0 b
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
) m# x; ?4 ?7 x而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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* T. f" M+ p' \" ]" r# V) J0 OPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
0 |8 R2 k6 E+ Yno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
. o8 q) g3 P0 m5 b& }  dsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!2 P6 e! ^: Y- U* T  z/ ^# R
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
- Q. W: K6 ~' h% @  ?+ s' \8 [" Z, m若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
8 I  D; z$ t& t- m- }& k  }但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,+ g" X; e! c9 k9 C; Z
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.) F, b; }0 Q$ Z" |- f3 d* a

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9 l$ E8 |" I1 \# ^/ i: R$ d, u上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。) c$ P( i, m- r4 D2 V
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶) w; h+ h  T: H% i0 Q2 ]" C
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
* G1 l# F8 g4 g1 ~: f* ]这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了- k" F3 z/ Z) \( T9 _( @! m

* |) s& J' o: q  [+ Q( F所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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