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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.0 q  X2 s8 r1 z; }% k

0 p( V  \2 ]' W0 D) d" HTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 1 N, O- S4 a% O# e- U
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.1 X- e( i8 L1 d3 h( ~. e% p: f* C5 L0 r
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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" {0 {9 M6 m0 G7 iTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year." g' |2 ]% ~, n
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 0 N& H6 G2 ^" m2 `9 ~2 e( [
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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- ~; h& E7 ~' |7 W3 {TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes," A+ x+ Z" z& x5 A
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。7 I% d3 _$ Y8 f7 ?! E4 o8 F: p# N+ d$ E
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 z. r. I2 C1 S* c$ H: Q; b0 U1 }
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

# F5 n$ @. q5 u' i) m# k; q" s很多人都回学校深造去了; u6 p% ^. D" u* z8 i; x) |
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton5 w$ \9 W/ N2 |$ [7 y
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided6 H+ W. a; S2 \- d- z" V! Q
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
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pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
+ L) M) }. k; L4 o. N+ B% h: [! Rprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined1 r/ D* i: r# R# c" x, }
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
* k% s: L- x; o/ r2 wprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this- G: g: R8 K! P2 L/ x+ }0 N
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.6 ]* A6 P: K4 P- n* K7 P
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s) \6 P# j+ z  X4 o: c0 }. T
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
& B# b' a/ J4 @5 f! uduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta; E, _0 j! H7 B0 g$ ^
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
3 ~/ b+ N' x) Y- ?7 Hhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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* u0 r5 O1 u4 U2 E2 [excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
# H: |/ }5 A8 G1 `7 R) ubuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in) W' F- e! c' g+ q
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in: h7 P4 l' N3 {+ [% j
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7479 V* Z* m1 t3 z/ V
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
$ ^6 ~( e# n4 j  A8 I, s1 Zrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 N5 G& K/ }& g# G, `" l7 g: ^resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.+ r/ _4 z5 m$ k2 w
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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# O  S. a" @) {) V4 EAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
" m& A! R8 B0 m4 Whousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
- a% w3 F5 D& U" ?: Z6 [1 ]relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale4 c6 e* W5 L$ [7 d
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
/ [, ~' i$ A* Q3 ~* s) L$ Ethough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
; L# K% _8 f1 p5 `- N, ~on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable." P: \* Z: x; }+ i7 k' v, ^
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove% o  c/ B. l5 X& [& k
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’% I1 F8 F3 H+ v2 ]; E
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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leg down over 2009.$ Q7 H! b- A9 c6 s3 q
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
! c. h8 |$ w0 W( w/ KAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 3 x+ O- n0 X( t: V# m  P8 I
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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