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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane7 ~6 l- ]; y# [5 Z, k, B
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
3 j6 I& ]' O0 V, j  ]3 J1 d: H(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
! S$ d3 q  D+ g葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
8 R2 Q! T. o$ u' v9 }! H; H! Z3 e% k- z上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
; r+ z# f  |$ n/ T# m她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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7 y. o1 O$ R' c# w( Q5 CAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
- z6 d( @7 n# U2 B7 OShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
0 y1 e* P: y. u' V9 n  lbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
# k: t+ t2 M/ D7 c: b# P  Bto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.& ?$ |; ?! j: P0 D
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.# B6 l7 Z  [6 p$ N4 j% o- l
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
5 T: J) f+ O' X; q5 bif we demand He leave us alone?"
; h& m/ j$ E6 f9 q8 g『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
* e% o, H9 B# z1 R3 w( W( ^2 C只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,6 F1 |2 e! V8 e0 z5 d! o; P
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
( N6 c) c4 {) V3 M6 Q9 Z0 @上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。3 _8 h( e1 J5 o3 o
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,& T; k' S* K" y1 W8 I2 X' W' u
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』1 g( A6 G2 ^0 p) L
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
: ^* ?! V2 H! q7 e' g( w0 WI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,+ r% L7 ~  W6 B' q9 G5 ]% ]
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our& g3 i- h% \- l! G
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
, m! ]+ x" z6 w# o7 h, Rschool...
& X* F9 }- o" {- `5 v( ~. k9 Zthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,: `+ `5 H+ }# g0 U& i. ~, t& }
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
# l* w, F; ]8 l! o% k% v% D. k看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,5 `/ L8 o! m* v: q( h% C
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士! V) ^! r- I$ E1 R" x; \3 h
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,7 g% w* u2 z1 P) p
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
. j+ N$ J# f0 S3 z7 x要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children7 H4 Q3 i0 G1 w' H! s! ?1 }
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
. {- |- L% N% B9 T+ E% W: rand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
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We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
' G" @! l, U; X6 T/ Q' M! ~4 v然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
2 Y8 y) x" c9 [: P; U% x我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,8 f4 S; _& f/ M( {
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊+ s4 S  J. @  x1 O6 @
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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' h5 o5 z3 q6 D0 oThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our5 u9 H- N  W& f3 z, z/ ?2 N, s
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
( c# ?; O, t  R" Ein this school better touch a student when they misbehave9 l2 i) l. |& v% G$ z
because we don 't want any bad publicity,: |' b7 k# x- R7 y; R- G
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference( s2 W  ~1 o0 B1 P6 C1 l
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
" o! E3 p5 [  t/ l* D; petc.). And we said OK.
* X& P% N; u) M3 z然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
% V6 }. U. \5 n* T9 h老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
& {3 M4 T9 z" f( ?教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,# |3 \3 J. k% ?5 ^! n- n7 k
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),! q% \+ I' y# p4 F
而大家同意了。
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" ?# A9 a5 U% dThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,8 x$ x6 ?. g, S1 d
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
! h# _' Q, m0 N8 ]' i4 AThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys! j( ^) M! v3 K# o+ ~6 A4 O' T# v
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms; D: F8 _; A* R7 K6 q8 h
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,, S& u" \/ ]" t5 i* N" I
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we: R6 J0 K% p% Y9 j3 I+ x  @
said OK.
! N, O. F8 }) M  j然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
& m# V, C) b# P; q8 @甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。$ N/ O/ t4 X, a- X9 `4 ^6 [
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,% a, |6 v9 S3 S' A7 J  i8 j, l
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,. ?( b2 J& S. ~  {! c/ t
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道- P) J$ i) n: }9 V$ W+ D
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter0 ^: ?' J/ v- r
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,0 w; _8 r; k8 W$ Y  g- F
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
2 r& t* E( V, [3 r4 w3 Pdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
% k: V2 q, m& D& i+ D* Y% }8 i然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,* u% Q5 W/ q7 A
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,5 W) @' l6 g0 h- X8 }
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >3 }8 j4 F% k' ~6 ^9 l$ A6 W# }
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。( W& H. f4 j7 F9 n6 e  w

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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
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of the female body. And we said OK.
0 m4 G( B5 b1 s8 x& {然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,; }  |" B6 w( U  N7 N0 q, Y
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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$ Y# U. H0 \5 w( kAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
) n& c9 E6 z6 I1 K1 z% @published pictures of nude children and then further again
1 P! k0 E9 }8 v4 _- \. ]by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
3 h: f# o+ `/ @, i" ~9 Othey're entitled to free speech.
1 r% {) J) T# m& k1 M; ]然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
( V7 |4 g2 _/ k甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說," u& X' P' m- n" z2 i. L
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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& H- C0 V# {# M8 `, E: m( Z- K- pThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
8 a: T" m& ?( B2 |2 F, nthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
& G0 n$ h: B* `that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
" O! c. j0 s# a* J, n3 c, ]And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
. k( ?* g0 Q. a  hnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead., A) `" W% I' M, N0 h9 D/ V- i# }
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
6 `6 M  m  w7 }2 ?! w- m' Q不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
, ]$ x1 V( Z. ?* J# H( H# i謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:. A1 @7 ~" k: w7 l  Z1 W
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。  j2 m) u# ?; `
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1 P$ ^. v0 W" }' \' a+ _" |; WNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
* o( [: _% k- }; {" @% Awhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them! T2 N( W: T% \2 `9 X) z
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
6 a/ o9 z0 `/ Q0 sif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out./ J3 q: O4 }; C8 D
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.", J/ c2 s+ {& F* Z! x" B& Q1 e' V
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
* E* t) P1 _! d: @% n6 B, v為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?! r1 l& H! U8 H3 C) e! o
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?0 a* Q, ]1 @6 h* r; V2 u; y
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。7 h7 D! l9 F4 e) Q3 Y
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。0 `' t1 K  Q2 p4 l  K) m5 {4 u/ d' G
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder3 C$ `) W" e' u' V1 F+ j
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers! R! u  e2 e5 B
say, but question what the Bible says.
" F! W. d9 q) h/ @實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
/ k1 b5 y' r5 X$ `8 q$ R9 b實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like, a9 R! J9 ?% P2 k
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,+ K9 N1 _& D) Q3 M0 y9 @$ |7 u
people think twice about sharing.& J" c. r8 ]. k* r' I; s
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;( o% _% z9 {+ e% B9 ]- p- R# O
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
  z; q8 f! }+ W$ Z* {( b人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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9 e8 G7 I( a1 ^. UFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely) P: K" J% o/ z+ x+ o" q) o
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed4 r: m* t9 m+ c, `. o5 m. N: V
in the school and workplace.: O5 X+ {# M( A( S
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章1 v( E2 M  B; D, s
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
6 o$ `9 W% _! @! M: _5 D而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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# `4 Q/ ]2 [. k: q$ p. X; h% w6 l, z4 MAre you laughing?; b* E) Q8 A* ]; b! n
你笑了嗎?5 v" |( R* K) p

2 ?# e8 m; D8 S: ^; R4 bFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
; `- P1 q: l' Pto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
. Y! y4 A& c/ k% m& j( E1 nor what they WILL think of you for sending it./ b2 h+ y# O' F0 @
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us, d% m/ A, q$ ~0 M9 C
than what God thinks of us.- f  D" z) W/ r
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,; z' D( ~5 b, ~$ ?! Z) i, d
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
, i1 G) m# T% p+ s4 A或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
$ B+ j8 V4 P8 r" h9 y可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
& i6 z3 D# T& W; U! F而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。% R4 X( Y- ]" y' f' u+ `5 M- ^

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it..., H  @, U. F6 d7 u6 w$ W% {
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't' }4 Q  ~" ~) U  H7 S! N9 S
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!  {1 t7 D' Y2 j% `* O( Y
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話3 T/ C+ U# |( W$ Q9 f( j
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
) E& q0 F- N; Y# `; Q但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,6 h  V9 m5 c; X2 a3 Y
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
: G- |* G' {& [8 I  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
$ _) E7 u. @6 o! w" q5 G$ i有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
2 t0 I8 u# U' |: `8 r这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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/ Y) h# J6 k  W% p2 j: Z7 W所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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+ W; O* p9 _' @) i- w! k0 o. D社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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