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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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  K5 m7 n# o7 L. V5 X8 W5 JBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
" c% C+ P/ h* \! ^8 }$ FClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"$ _6 u6 R! I- l; S6 d3 K
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).0 L( |1 q% S+ ]( E8 N9 B" O; H
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
& ]3 e1 b% S& @$ z1 G1 I上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?5 N# H6 M( l; E: i: {
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:) e& L, [* j2 X6 R( g9 Y
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
2 Z+ I4 e, m; G, O$ }2 eShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
7 U8 ]) a" ?; W, G5 a$ F5 ebut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,  v$ o' }) m+ {, i6 W. [( d
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.1 B3 d  D# v  r* F) w0 v
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
, a4 \4 L, r$ M! m  ^How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection+ f4 O1 d# H( s# K) a
if we demand He leave us alone?"
9 Z* @; @7 z, U( y4 j『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
% G! s* x. b! u7 D/ d# E6 b$ K只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,- K2 {8 y; k" B" b) }) t" g
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
( U# e2 T! h4 p8 n( ^  V. }* G! T上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。( ~% a: I  Y  d, E' J
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
4 P" x' Z5 p" `4 G! Z% m$ _# L4 s又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』* R7 x, l1 R; M. C2 L

1 a7 f/ A, k, H5 W5 cIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
+ `+ ?+ |. j5 o; h" eI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,, j0 W) o5 n2 R
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our8 x9 P9 G$ }# U( C
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
% J6 e& z9 a+ Gschool...
1 O% l7 |, a; g4 ?the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
: }5 B8 s& E, ^2 s6 j" G+ Gand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.  a9 ?& v2 ?* K
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
( l7 N# g9 g0 n/ m. w我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
% |0 G6 o9 E0 k, T* ^: X" i(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
- ?1 P. T& Q3 T; A% u+ M最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、5 \- O) N% _5 C2 V6 i- t  q, ]
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。' ^" c& s$ h! S& {! m7 e( t" E

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
7 z6 j" Y% e, d, r4 pwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped& t8 D5 T2 S4 a4 ~- _
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
# L' L+ x7 S8 d( n2 tsuicide); O9 g* Q& ~; e1 k
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK." x7 `; J1 K3 g; B
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
2 @& y7 Y" f7 _( s; p9 y! S我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,' {. b# |1 W- H# i
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
  Z$ e7 n- O( `% o2 h" c, v4 n' F+ x( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
! s* @& ?4 W7 O3 W; F  G: h  c6 Vchildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member+ i' F0 X/ S# y$ Z" o  H
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave  N+ F' z6 N5 Q& _& X- h2 t
because we don 't want any bad publicity,5 A5 Q- o( s: {& c! \- N
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference) w# e* j, e! e
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
5 W4 z. |$ X8 s6 \1 t( b$ Xetc.). And we said OK.0 N9 S; Q& ]( p1 [! [; f. ]  z; c' t
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
$ ~6 P1 Q- E. F7 m老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
9 N9 B, T  @- [2 B! `$ _教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
1 R6 @+ V' \5 A8 {% K更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),: c/ S1 `& {2 J% e* r5 W) y: @
而大家同意了。. }" F* q2 U: n: ~( f7 i% b
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,; j6 j( n2 J( a
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
9 ]+ w2 b: [6 u4 n3 }" EThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys4 w$ ~6 y$ U8 E8 V# {
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms$ \  O" `% f& a* k
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,2 e; f8 P" [. H) k" @& ~2 {, ?
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we- h, W8 Y* \; R* \! v
said OK.. K4 f3 {& A  b. C6 a. [6 K' X9 Q4 z
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
, Z1 v9 s+ v/ M* ^; b7 I  |甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。) b' C/ \1 j  _$ i1 ~# N6 e  r" @
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,0 _! I% @+ U/ l* q+ }8 c
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,! c: v4 U, ~. W6 K! b' u
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
8 N+ R5 p" `) ]" n- o) T" Y1 i2 I# r3 r他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。; d7 R) P% W( U& i3 k

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; C" I- S5 }$ P2 y0 nThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter7 H  T( ~1 L* r. ?& n8 }7 r$ ~
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
5 o$ M: [/ S+ c3 zwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,8 j6 {* ?9 Z! N
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.& z! D9 x1 H' B3 l
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,( U6 L7 g) G0 |, _( h# o0 W
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
: V: q0 D# }9 T; x  D任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >2 a/ t1 g1 A& P- ^0 H8 k* I
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
( L, [# ^% |- ?# Dand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty8 v6 U* Q3 S4 ~" T  ?' f
of the female body. And we said OK.
0 G; i) Y8 C) j  F# K, w! W然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,' Q6 M5 f8 b2 N8 q- R, x; K
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。6 x2 }' B! W& I3 m# W" m4 e
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
5 l& L7 ]3 Y+ H  rpublished pictures of nude children and then further again
9 L* a9 f' I) d# Q4 T( D$ Dby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
" S' c6 s0 B$ L# ^, }( Q/ sthey're entitled to free speech.2 l1 Y% g; v* r9 B, w% O
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,* Z% x, E5 w6 d1 w5 u
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
, _: a# u4 L. R5 u他們這樣做是言論自由。& m% b% J" F) ]* X+ f' k0 L4 F- z
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
* \. i7 a& E5 Jthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
$ Q$ i: f( H: V5 e# ?& c* Hthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
# j) ]  Y7 R9 }1 w6 vAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
2 D+ W8 h/ o0 I+ Inobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
7 `! y, Y2 y9 }" f* n2 X$ L# b然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、) H+ B% U: `3 t, c
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
5 X7 W; P- l5 Z2 ]4 G5 B4 E謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
( I! h% P; q$ h6 c) T) @( q4 h% o那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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; g; U/ ?; l, c' XNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
$ l! d' \* _0 R. G& ^# ?6 M. bwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
  R) Z$ }* {: ]; ?! Q: yto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
) P& G, T+ s2 V- v2 p2 ^' hif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.1 M! w; |: g4 Z1 @9 w) T
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
  n# I% z* S$ i% u6 |如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?6 S; t& ~6 d* q  E: _8 b/ _: @
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
' N# z2 G; f. M$ \7 n7 L為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
- z  E3 f/ H9 O. U# O- k, F0 \假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。9 w2 w1 m9 Z5 D) `: L
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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) {: C& _) D4 {% L9 j9 w( s# sFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder( n- l' Y& Y. @' s
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
* c- {* J/ ?! y9 h6 x8 {8 z; c7 |say, but question what the Bible says.
% J+ ?! C" c1 V9 x6 Y實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
2 S5 u: Y5 ^' y: a3 s5 R實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like" Y+ j- C& J8 `3 Q: [
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,, r8 Y) Z; i1 g* U5 _5 }* b
people think twice about sharing.' a/ s( f, x- I2 s) F& z% A
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
8 O2 P9 @: P8 u' G, U. l但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
9 p3 r* a, k' U5 i; n人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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. s9 B/ h  a& @6 M  }1 |" ~2 ]Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely' P' x+ t; m8 a9 p$ `
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed: Z% x4 P$ I: ?0 }7 }, a: {
in the school and workplace.$ d" a8 P% L  T& `3 T7 u/ K7 I/ ]
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章9 ~+ Z+ [0 C9 i$ \* d
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;: [- Y  S/ W+ s& y
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。" P  ?* j; [7 G7 D
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& W; {$ T$ S" G/ C( n! mAre you laughing?# W, P( g6 ?" Z2 x
你笑了嗎?" i* k. U9 ^3 c

" T; A0 l+ d2 B0 P! Z/ dFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it" }) D, C  @5 t( u. l  }  @1 {/ m
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe," q  T$ U$ i" [2 [
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.) u" Y3 G2 h6 u5 v+ U$ W/ d
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
4 Z0 l7 a9 `( w) z( _than what God thinks of us.
$ ~' h# D$ n+ a* `) `, D好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
4 G+ s3 z: }6 j0 k因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,1 `: n% ]/ t8 D2 T
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
+ C$ M# W# c9 L1 m( U可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,6 g0 ~# B) v1 c% \. A
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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( m' X( ?! K0 W( e/ uPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
6 d0 }/ |7 x+ z. y& h2 Uno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't: v/ d9 v- z& W  O; ~( y$ K
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!& Y8 b: M+ A* T- l( v5 j0 `
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
% N- a: j. P9 `# D& w若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,1 W6 q& }% H$ r) m0 S0 ^2 K
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,; [+ e) Q% Y* s- J1 a% _
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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" [! M2 K$ r4 n3 \, v# C* `上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
理袁律师事务所
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。- @7 s2 z( ?3 g7 |
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶4 x  I+ A7 B1 Z/ B. t- m
有道理啊。
理袁律师事务所
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
4 v8 V8 I6 m0 B1 m. F( {这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
大型搬家
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。# \7 r9 b; \2 D8 R2 m: r8 z8 a

. ?8 `( V. h6 M8 p" q9 g% P( Y社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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