I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache( t1 ?- p$ x5 n) t2 W
+ h5 o6 \% r* C# L$ G. k# JCalm down everyone please.7 Q4 R9 K l0 J( G# X0 x
. A# c* k* e) G5 E不存在 can mean two different things: V- X, `% K3 \2 c) L& a" M9 F
: p9 f$ {: _" m U* @ g9 T6 ]6 B, g. L1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc., u& ^! X$ r9 z- D# K
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头; Y V- Q- |' L" c5 T" Q( e6 ~" d
2 ]% P4 x0 {0 l W; ]I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist1 g1 {. b5 C: D) ^7 {! a" t5 t, Y$ d
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原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表 , C- @3 g' G# t' v' p6 E9 A# mI would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache & J2 Z% ?" T) Y. A" o% A " |+ l- T' F9 ~) _$ K5 pCalm down everyone please. # { c/ m* S2 c m* D G7 f) b( x4 V
不存在 can mean two different things:, q7 [' S: `, m/ }# m% V
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. 1 D* R& u7 b# }$ ~ w# H2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头- w& g: o" Z" `
) |, B( t4 m8 QI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
0 W0 s2 T& ^2 _) q \; D % O. a- `7 h6 ?- a; Y8 S, l& t小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
0 R9 S, x5 `! O1 i3 r, c1 \ N% z: x1 U Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way? 6 h0 [4 ~* J! ^' L" I- ~0 JIf you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 balubalu 于 2006-6-8 09:01 发表6 A2 E# T2 P7 K" [# i+ R
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8 j8 W* i( T7 f6 l. } 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不 ...
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& O+ P" l' R3 s$ N, a2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! 7 j4 g/ E/ S! F( H0 E! S/ P# L9 Z( l$ C2 G; G V5 T
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure. + F" {1 L" }. f3 E9 u& H 0 D5 X" R$ A8 Q* L. x4 c6 E[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:57 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表2 l2 L! Y9 z* d6 N- ]
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! 9 ~) g, T. J1 i$ p% P% K* q" D# j! N! ?" _' @; }
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) 6 a9 T) A' U; ~; b. E- u1 f* _1 {8 T2 c+ f- R T& X5 ?
Maybe we should stop argument. : w& w" F- B% y
: [8 M. l+ z! _$ }: l; v" LMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion, K# [. m2 A" v* u
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