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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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3 H; _7 _8 A% w; STD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ' o% n2 p+ Y0 s9 w0 Z3 T$ {

- Q0 J3 E" i  V0 eThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. - {5 f6 _: l2 ^) ^
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " ]6 y" J; W5 Y9 U$ b0 N
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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2 d: y1 i# n& N* o7 F) KTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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* d3 V) u; |+ e& [% r8 F"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 X, B* o; J. v  u5 S( r

+ {6 r: x1 i1 B) ~1 DMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. * a& ~& u0 {+ T/ e2 J0 K; M
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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2 z4 Q# U0 B' H% ITD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,1 @- n) L2 m) ]. ^
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。  q6 O3 t/ `' D/ J4 O8 e
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 & {& j$ l3 @8 }7 ^
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了. y, s% K' J* A+ |* T5 f& ^* R
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta; p; s1 o8 W! f
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its' I/ X# ]8 [" _: O
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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9 o# b1 P  A, {7 j0 e0 k2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household; d: q7 K) q- m+ i$ }4 B1 k& W/ W
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
/ ~% f, K( D' T3 N/ O$ Nfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
, R8 w: S# T/ ^; f" _3 H) ^the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and: L9 `, H& i/ o/ r0 h
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
- k) o7 c- d: Q! s9 u$ dpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed/ Q0 p! H, f( ~
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined  n/ ^6 M- K4 P4 I% b+ f
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year2 A7 s: u; e" q" ?
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this/ o4 j) ?0 l. l: @5 J* N
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,4 x+ k- {; u1 [+ g* U) G4 V
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
$ X8 \( m! O, A$ w- j( ?, D: x! j30,000 new households will form in the province during/ w/ n/ w; b; V$ \
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.9 R4 x+ ~1 W  D: z- r0 t9 [/ Y
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s* \/ h2 O* ]* y. Z8 A3 P
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
: j6 k& Z% l; ]! v" vduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta% q6 e7 N, `, u) a
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new# Y1 B: s' I) s( U3 t! p- f
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals, z0 E$ g) s2 }0 }
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
$ t' I# \, O1 Bsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories. N. x: t; P6 J, U
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
, ^, a# G, y( k  _2 kexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
7 @1 H! w3 |/ _1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
: c" Y* f0 U( h+ l+ f! Jsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
3 q: P, ]; i2 S3 T" Jbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in: N% {- Z1 I6 ]: Y3 m) |1 K8 t5 t
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
5 S: y" i( r* B# ?3 M: Gunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7475 K% m* w' ]% N* @1 G$ A
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest. S8 E, S2 D8 [2 ?) v
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
7 p) ?' U& J  @; d0 O- j* }. sresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
8 j4 L. E8 a1 _  I/ X0 Pmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories9 o% P7 |+ B" `
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled0 L# p: `. d) E7 Q
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.6 p( Y  ?/ \5 A5 S' U- o0 }( `
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
1 _4 r0 g' _6 T' U; P+ wboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.& [* R8 A& I: q! A! K, n5 Y
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
8 h& b% I6 c0 j" H" F2 Q8 H8 g- thousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even( `7 u: a2 J7 |6 _2 n/ e
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
. ?4 T5 Q' e0 D1 g: q! [9 R" @on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.% k7 \1 m0 y. _1 `" _: e
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
3 C9 B0 F" ]1 _( u' Z' w) e; _resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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+ }1 ]: }+ m& }" w' mhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’( s) w2 I2 J+ P: u, j; w. c
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 W/ f3 M, Z8 d* m
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%) F0 I" s2 l3 @, U  X& J
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
" |6 F: \0 l- ?1 c4 `Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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