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肉麻怎么说啊?

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发表于 2008-1-11 07:35 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表
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当然,但是我觉得从矫揉造作这个中文去找英文,pose还是很妥当的。
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其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思,和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的,只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见?

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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
/ R# y+ D% {" `/ w: l) d. G, fwhat about clichéd or hackneyed, are they closer? They both mean something by "overuse" but the end results still seem to difer from when I use 肉麻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-11 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
先感谢一下同学们,我稍后再来仔细学习
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原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
2 ^$ a( f  E* I9 S4 |3 k- mThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
! W) T' o1 I( L) y3 R1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  
5 ^# ~+ `  Y; L. x0 k5 x: Q2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

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6 V: J4 G3 e8 h" xhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones.$ O/ _: ~& H- t4 T( A
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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, t) p3 W- B8 M* S! JI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
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; x. Y; j0 |4 N$ Z" [9 ]4 y3 ~1 d# pcliché really means overused, predictable, 陈词滥调, 了无新意.  for example, in chinese shows, to imply that a woman is pregnant , she will always suddenly rush into the washroom and start to vomit, that's a cliche scene. so cliche!6 R0 }: e' z: s+ J- J% ?! {! O4 U
but not rouma at all.
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发表于 2008-1-11 18:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 " W- z: |" X: T" e2 M( Z
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5 k+ i" E* _: Y; ?have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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Thanks. I will check it later on.
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发表于 2008-1-11 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.* t2 ~1 \& M: k8 b
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 2 P0 W5 K! M! q% Z% R
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! V7 L. U5 v( N  y# C$ ~% Q  hhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:25 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表   U0 K/ o* g8 ~) `& h5 z8 }) b
impudence  厚颜无耻   可以吗?

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( N. I* R' a2 S3 |, S0 q3 q8 l6 G8 }虽然和肉麻关系不大,很喜欢这个词!厚颜无耻!这么对应一下:6 ~8 S& t1 n( ^* E- _
impudent 厚颜无耻
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$ _5 _/ N; ^  Q5 m1 w2 [; o寻求“臭不要脸”的英文ing..
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:27 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:  i! S4 [+ w- L6 m
what about clichéd ...
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对,我的总结是:cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广,但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy
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! J! h2 [4 S; P) B( ]2 ~这个cliched,我就遵循下面竹帘这个french frog的说法了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表
; X2 M8 V$ y% M4 r8 Y0 c* \  JSlang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...
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文化不同语言的应用不同,这个原理是对的,比如哥儿们,美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎,因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表 ' b# i' t5 o4 B9 o8 k
The following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
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2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...
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请参见20搂,我开始也是查的正统字典,觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy
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发表于 2008-1-13 23:48 | 显示全部楼层
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:08 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
! {1 @9 P6 H( v1 k$ U# X* x8 D# U看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看

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Mushy
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:12 | 显示全部楼层
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另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy, Y2 G6 V  \6 h8 L' S! |
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形容肉麻的情书情话之类.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
: u1 F, ?, N8 J9 g" C% k看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看

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严重感谢!我查了一下,icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近!我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用,以求加强记忆!再次感谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:29 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
, O; e! s. W! d另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy
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& v4 o* s5 Y# j4 Zschmaltzy !太高级了这词,没见过地说!仔细钻研ing
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原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表 0 u5 W- `5 o7 I- e* x

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这个对,我女儿说的。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表
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) ]* }2 C- V1 g/ ^, t- p豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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发表于 2008-1-15 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
mushy
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表 : |7 A8 X: D) P7 c0 v8 \

, r2 v( u- ?# b' L) X7 d! g豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号,好像是那个人的名字?给人感觉很FAKE,叫CHEESY.1 ~3 i( X: P  R2 a2 j6 ~
她说,肉麻是和LOVE有关的,MUSHY.
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
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Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!& `8 S# ]8 h6 d' Q$ ~
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号 ...
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严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊!可惜俺的太小了!. m/ ]' U4 w9 b; R

$ {) X- m/ A7 Z: U0 w% R我从这个帖子学习后,又有这么个想法:肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的,如果是爱人间的肉麻,是mushy, 如果是表演过度,作假的肉麻,是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗?
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外甥女说的是Terry Fox, 是所谓的加拿大民族英雄。! R/ k$ J: K! m8 l- t
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原帖由 意难平 于 2008-1-15 14:16 发表
+ B6 s) E7 O7 x/ r. c- wThought I'd throw in my 2 cents!9 _5 d8 W+ j: N2 Y* a3 Q
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...

8 ?  _4 `! }4 E. k7 ]thank you so much! I wonder how cheesy was evoluted into rouma
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发表于 2008-1-16 16:48 | 显示全部楼层

I thank my government

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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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肉麻== I thank my government
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# G$ |  y4 r; V- H! b5 f- Q+ ^& {3 wOne joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....% u7 h- N+ @$ G$ G4 c6 U' ~
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SO 肉麻== I thank my government
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表 9 M/ l7 c9 n2 G3 f7 V) [* r- |8 c5 w
用google字典翻译1 U. ~: U( E! H7 C
肉麻== I thank my government
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2 V+ B, w$ o, j, P- U, J+ b港传媒便有曰: 今后谁敢在公开场合说自己爱国的, 都应该被捉起来, 真正罪名是"肉麻"
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发表于 2008-1-17 09:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表
" y8 e2 h- ]( F% z7 rwow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...

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what a bi*ch! like you have slept with every married american man and know exactly what they think about their wives.
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原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表 * e8 h4 C" n# d/ d; \2 W, f8 ~  Q$ a
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SO 肉麻== I thank my government
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鹈鹕灌顶!这太绝了!!!
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哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。
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