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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane& ^" U- f2 j* M9 E, }
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
1 }4 Q; t  P1 g/ x3 B2 W: ^  `) c(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).7 h8 N) K6 T& v$ M# X6 u
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
8 ~" M8 R6 @) k1 m  q& ]8 E  C上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
, ~" M# k4 M" p+ G. e* B' s: L& D她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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* m! m- B9 ~8 P. HAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
, @2 S! g7 X1 C) g9 E; K' GShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,' q8 e$ {3 N0 I/ x9 u$ R
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,- B) i; D! M* l9 [* ?7 y' b
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
6 ]6 L( t3 ^" C/ R" k. sAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.% r: H0 G9 A% B5 \" K- D% k# z
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
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『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
9 O) [1 G* \- c( K3 B3 I只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,* E' m. z! W8 l
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。( h# N( E4 w0 m4 O9 l; K& [1 d
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
+ }/ F1 s+ |$ ]# o' A  g: |$ i# ]我們既然強令祂遠離我們,, X% L! F$ _& V
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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  \1 G- V  N( O  \In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.2 }9 n) l/ D7 F* N9 k1 D8 Q
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,( ^/ [* ]: W- B' o% N
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our0 G4 L: a. [) T
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in3 w: ]! h5 W  s: T. p  q
school...0 ]. b: @( F( f+ R4 w- z
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,$ S( E8 t% V. l# @/ ^+ K
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.3 o5 O3 X, s1 p' i4 T6 L4 `) y
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
% R! J0 ~  n( r) m, g我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
  H% d0 U" [) t. H; N4 ^, r(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
% a+ s& m/ _2 v$ c1 i4 N最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、! N$ Q" [, }( L
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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/ p2 r7 e& C& q! aThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children- t* v1 M& |6 l! i5 V" z
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
* @/ o- h# i8 K8 s# Xand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
/ [& M( }& F8 s. j* i1 U- H% zsuicide)
$ w9 J7 {* N: Y( h4 }$ IWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
/ A5 j- T6 a* y' J然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
) C+ U$ r# [2 r; l1 i# n我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
9 H: ~9 O+ T+ F# E, f) H& m  b以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊8 v7 G0 K3 ?# y& E: o( D% `1 ?+ I
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。0 H7 r* q2 \9 B) F$ [

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4 V* q' [/ X' u' \Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
5 i- V7 F. C/ w  N* C, [6 A0 T) m* f' _children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member2 J% ^7 N0 F, H+ s9 c# @$ R
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
8 m$ k0 o3 H1 ebecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
2 k9 e) P* ^- ~& @' o$ L: jand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference6 T: L2 `( I+ s) l* R& W$ D% Z
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
; K4 T0 |- V0 Vetc.). And we said OK.
" p$ t! c* @2 ~4 ^然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,/ D+ f4 E- y5 C$ m9 o0 A! \
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,, h6 s: f$ ^9 U
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,4 \, h& x/ B6 E0 B  S. N
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
; C1 z$ Z+ t7 }9 [% ?5 B0 \* ]而大家同意了。3 F& j: _' m* @& x( V

; I/ u5 g4 ]) V5 X& @Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
! Q; S; i1 Z: M8 L9 v8 Nand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
, Y6 [, G( T7 \; z7 A3 F/ P6 sThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
* z) \3 k1 [: L2 ]7 I$ k; dand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
  E4 s& T+ Y) i4 Qthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,- n: i/ g. B8 h# w& q
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
- o9 y3 E6 J+ p% E9 usaid OK.
2 Q% \5 Z$ U- m* L$ Z然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,3 C+ f7 \* y% P( v( W" u
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。3 L- p) U$ m7 g7 m' N
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,5 D2 {5 o/ S: x
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,3 W. ?0 d8 j( P6 K8 \
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道& Q! R' u0 t* {9 y7 {
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。6 _5 o6 f) d' r4 F+ f" ?" g2 I
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! E4 U- ~$ z5 n# R2 @0 r/ h3 _4 SThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter- j2 C* W8 \0 i, a! Y9 V3 y6 q0 _
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,% J- `$ }& {( ?0 C
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
8 v/ b- _) q  T) hdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
1 ~4 Z9 R& O# `3 K8 c6 x0 Q8 s, w6 r然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
- T4 T5 M9 F$ W2 j+ U6 w只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
4 Z9 T! T. E  h任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >" ^) k2 }5 d; v9 ?9 T
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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6 B9 F; G, _+ b/ X* i  N0 f+ M% {Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women9 f2 s: @) Y6 L$ x' O
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
( h$ J* `' G( [of the female body. And we said OK.
1 T, b8 {+ v. R1 W% R1 w- l然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
1 M. R& m3 n7 o7 l稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。; M# E: K! i% ]7 Z- \$ x) X7 g+ [

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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and( n2 N7 t! N. }+ k7 z7 g; ]$ @
published pictures of nude children and then further again
  u6 t% E& K) Z/ Z6 F8 Vby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
# U1 F# I/ D, H5 }/ d% d+ E% k4 ethey're entitled to free speech.
4 L' K% ?$ ]6 c0 z1 P& _然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,% h  I* j& D$ g8 f' |. ]3 B4 \
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,9 n6 E& x. f/ z
他們這樣做是言論自由。' e4 c6 J) E& x: c; `

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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
) L) a- j7 z/ U; H) l$ D& \. O+ Nthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
' Z$ f) a7 W7 `1 J  E, g! Rthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.3 k! y4 @. c2 }" n& d3 z& Z
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
1 e' T7 `9 n3 [# tnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
5 Z4 `) m. f; Q) E, L' a然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、, ?1 x: h+ S" E- Y1 J
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、* X2 z! [# b3 K$ N0 i( E3 G
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
4 i+ Y2 s4 g: Q- A那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。7 C) o  D7 D0 \3 n
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,  Q# G; F/ f- v! ?$ {
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
- b9 d( x- U6 |0 ?" B; H6 dto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,3 m$ L5 }; G9 E# S' z# j; L, ~
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
# P5 j/ n! |; F( w6 xI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
& i2 J% K" u' V8 F如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
, s. P% _0 \3 Z' q) ]1 o  R) E為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?) E5 Z7 C* E! @, z1 {
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?( J" t% f/ `# \6 B: \  ]# J
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。1 `7 v% w* t, G' |8 |
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。% z8 l9 j0 P5 ~$ A  t' Q  C! S
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder) w, J) N) M# r4 u
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
3 \, k' w2 W, qsay, but question what the Bible says." y' D5 K1 t" z% I7 Z3 V
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
5 a1 P$ k' m" i實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like- |; y0 v2 d( o5 b1 m1 z, G
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
1 y4 I6 c' a1 H& bpeople think twice about sharing.
: C* S1 [' ~# n) b. }7 t實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
/ T& n' u" I8 [9 W$ z: v但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
$ ?: J! j: Q2 \7 [! v8 y1 D人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
% f6 w( f* n/ c2 [$ R3 v( zthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed% H" t! b/ O5 l
in the school and workplace.: v9 l" Y/ ]# [
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章4 _- Y* c) q3 [
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
' D4 j$ i. C5 ]7 w而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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+ D& h) ?  T- h; @( A  vAre you laughing?
8 T& u; L( v4 H; f- \* i你笑了嗎?
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  Y( R7 I$ B5 q4 A9 jFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
' j; m5 n0 e$ vto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,: p( e% z0 ?% O1 f2 X0 ~
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
, s- d0 y- Q" hFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
2 @! Q5 w9 |4 {. ^; R( nthan what God thinks of us.  M" n3 G3 ]3 ?, S
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,) A* K; t' x. E( x0 f( ~
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,/ R' m7 P/ C& j6 c$ I& `( x& E7 Q
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
8 H5 e, y0 z4 E可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
( Z2 n( Z: R6 e2 S; A: |7 @# ^3 M而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。& ~! v/ f# {9 J2 K% \
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
8 P% u# u1 {! n8 i' Zno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't; }5 V& l0 u$ l9 V/ f: t1 S$ P
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
( b( r; J* ?( g, N: {+ [把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話1 T9 U0 _; I0 S/ S# r& i
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,/ X  \: R  m; o( h
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
8 _' M9 b0 p1 N* D/ f+ W- r/ S( H$ }你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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' [5 L. l  `7 u* i上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
9 K6 t% _( B3 w- V6 {  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶7 b/ q* ?3 |0 c/ q( o
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。0 l5 C/ f" a6 Z: h6 {- `  S" i
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了1 p" L/ f! V1 A5 P1 r$ Q& j/ o
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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' h1 e1 b5 F2 ]社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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