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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.( e7 \/ h0 v% N4 C( G& @+ p  c
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 6 h. a- ^! ?* g7 u
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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' \$ A6 n$ L) Y6 m) }: bTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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1 O( v9 h2 ~8 g3 X- F- K"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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4 K- L5 Y% b! `/ v! X5 @2 a9 w4 GTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 C% i6 ~6 A: U; T+ K8 Z. d; n* e
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 4 C( Q: d& I3 Z7 [0 @! Y

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。( c- b4 e0 X& I% w
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。. l' ?  C" h* D& }* U6 k: x

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
" |) ?. _! y' E3 T! P跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton2 s* t5 f5 I9 L  {" J3 S2 Z! S
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided8 u  Y' a0 q% @( A9 o" w
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
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may even cease completely during 2009. The previous1 C0 o. a5 N- l& c$ k9 S& K
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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3 v: f9 b& J( q) h+ ayear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
. W; i& i% Y2 P4 L& l* V9 Shomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
/ r2 w  n/ @/ c" F30,000 new households will form in the province during
2 ]1 x' \* _7 i3 |5 o  V/ C; x2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
! ]7 o7 R' S4 S: ]9 XEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s2 G: Q$ D0 t, P2 @0 a& h9 q
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
6 M. r1 G1 ]% n3 s1 F4 r9 E6 v5 F# uduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta1 Y# u$ J* x2 |, Z
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging2 Y& r* a% D; c- s
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
& c+ {5 w. Q8 D" F: S8 M1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
2 K! P4 b- M1 F' R4 F# p3 Jsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive2 [1 E6 s0 n; l  ]# N4 f
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
8 V2 G' ~( A, v8 [* F: G; ]unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest2 y( X7 d5 Q! s/ z2 ?
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
8 v# ]6 `7 N& L, X/ {* HThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
& E& C1 s5 n( V. r9 D7 sboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
5 ?0 x  F0 v+ G! XAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan2 C3 z9 w6 L& V$ C2 G) c3 V
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
) |. A4 A, Q6 J( [7 Kthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
8 {9 ^  d$ X, P. e4 Qon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
5 r0 c- J4 _- w' n! t6 F, YThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
) T3 O4 I' {1 ~9 F! r7 e, c* l, Bresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
5 X+ {  f4 H! x) [! B/ xdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
* e1 p, u: M0 j! V0 e1 {Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%, T5 x( @1 F+ {& C  G* m
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% g# u6 s7 J4 a3 J' n# `
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. / n  ?; Z/ T7 a. `2 \
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